Doctors raise alarm about health effects of continued coronavirus shutdown:

Reason is starting to prevail and doctors are fighting back against the shutdown. The other thing that's nice to see is these doctors reminding us of what flattening the curve meant.

"More than 600 doctors signed onto a letter sent to President Trump Tuesday pushing him to end the "national shutdown" aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus, calling the widespread state orders keeping businesses closed and kids home from school a "mass casualty incident" with "exponentially growing health consequences.



"The letter continues: "The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse."

"The very initial argument ... which sounded reasonable three months ago, is that in order to limit the overwhelmed patient flux into hospitals that would prevent adequate care, we needed to spread out the infections and thus the deaths in specific locales that could become hotspots, particularly New York City... It was a valid argument at the beginning based on the models that were given," McDonald said. "What we've seen now over the last three months is that no city -- none, zero -- outside of New York has even been significantly stressed."

"McDonald is referring to the misconception that business closures and stay-at-home orders aimed at "flattening the curve" are meant to reduce the total number of people who will fall ill because of the coronavirus. Rather, these curve-flattening measures are meant largely to reduce the number of people who are sick at any given time, thus avoiding a surge in cases that overwhelms the health care system and causes otherwise preventable deaths because not all patients are able to access lifesaving critical care. "


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/do...lth-effects-of-continued-coronavirus-shutdown

 

In the U.S. there are 74.6 licensed doctors per 10,000 people or roughly .0002% of them have signed on to this letter.

Yeah, 600 appears to be a big number.

 

That doesn't make them wrong. Lets not ignore the connection between poverty and illness.

 

Domestic violence, ODs, and suicides are up

 

Dis you read the letter itself?

It is one stinking damnation of the leadership during this crisis. I know it starts with “all praise the almighty Trump” but we know that praising him is the only way to get his attention. The drop off in routine medical care by patients was seen here too as people stayed away in consideration for healthcare staff overwhelmed by the virus

There should have been a national strategy in place to ensure routine care was still supported and mental health issues are addressed - we did that here.

 

Don’t you have a national campaign to address this?

 

About that

Who is paying for care of the Coronavirus victims?

 

yes, the Trump shutdown will have side effects

 

People who beating women and people who do an irresponsibly copious amount of drugs are scumbags regardless of what they can blame as their excuse for acting that way.

 

I do agree with one thing, the Trump shutdown should have only been done in certain states at certain times, the goal was to reduce the curve, not eliminate it

if your state had no cases, you are just as bad off today as before the Trump shutdown

only way this is not true is if your state had cases not counted, maybe because they happened late last year - but even then, the Trump shutdown did not help you

most Americans will get this virus regardless, the question is, can the medical system handle it when one does

Trump failed to lead this country through this, he tried to claim victory early on and now is trying to blame his failures on others

 

Agreed, but trapping them with their would-be abusers isn't exactly a smart or a sane thing either. We need a different strategy and fast, but if we listen to would-be dictators like Whitmer, it'll be very slow coming.

 

most Americans on unemployment fear returning to work, as if they do get sick they may not get paid time off, if they get sick while on unemployment, at least they still get paid

 

Trump only has the “bully pulpit” to encourage Americans to go back to work. It’s a tough job when the Democratic governors threaten people with jail if they leave their homes.

The Democratic governors want to kill the economy. Then, just before the election in November, they’ll blame Trump for high unemployment.

 

Sure but with people locked down they are getting depressed. Left wingers would rather people die so they can keep the economy down in an attempt to hurt trump

 

They were following the White House plan

We locked down hard and early, kept the death toll under 100 for the entire nation didn’t overwhelm our healthcare system, were able to use the money we would otherwise have spent trying to keep people alive to create a fund to support businesses and are now looking at reopening without the fear of a second overwhelming wave

Meantime we have bought time and watched others struggle so we now are closer to a vaccine and have some real strategies for treating the affected

 

Hasn’t your government put a mental health support plan in place? Ours did
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...tralians-through-the-coronavirus-pandemic.pdf

Yes that is what a NATIONAL plan looks like in case you have forgotten

 

I mean a national plan to address the effects of the lockdown?

 

Again what other countries did is roll strategies into a national plan

 

They are patients, not victims. The question here is if the lock down caused more harm than good. Its worth discussing.

Obesity increases the risk of complications from Covid and those on lock down are comfort eating.
Elderly are high risk, but their home is the most dangerous place and falls are a much higher risk.
Exercise strengthens immunity, reduces fall risks and reduces obesity.

 

They are victims in America

Victims of incompetent leadership and right wing dismissive tactics

 

You continue to ignore that it's left wing governors who continue to shut down the country.

 

Knowing that our government is incompetent, but still relying on them to tell you how to avoid a virus, doesn't make you a victim. BTW, most new Covid cases are people who stayed home.

Don't let your personal hatred for Trump cloud your judgement. It allows him to control you.

 

But one Dr Fauci is the last word huh

 

It’s the democrat governors shutdown now. They are keeping it going long after the need has passed

 

99 percent of those under sixty recover from Covid and the vast majority of those never even know they have it