Does a decline in religion/spiritualy, mirror a declining moral state?

Ohh! Am I invited to the party?

 

After the crusades, Christians have been mostly peaceful (outside of the witch trials) though there is one religion in particular, that started violent and remains so to this day, among the radicals. Guess who?

 

All I heard, was the bolded (actually I read it all but the projection stood out, to me)

 

Be whatever you want. I choose to self ID as a reformed, lesbian bigfoot who now digs reptilian hybrid, skinwalkers.

And nobody ought deny my ID validity!

 

Stop it ! You’re turning me on.

 

I would argue the opposite, that religion, particularly Christianity, encourages people to be good for a reward or punishment after life. Atheism has neither, and so being good is for it's own sake.

You are not truly good if you are only doing it because you fear damnation or are seeking a primised reward.

 

Oh behave!

 

OK, let me be clear, I am not particularly religious. I believe in infinity and the Creator...and Karma, BIG believer in Karma.

In an infinite Creation, one does not escape (or evade a good harvest) in this life or the next.

Birth is a door, just like death.

Doors are all there are.

 

You do realize that biologists do not dispute that there is a difference between biological sex and gender, yes?

Real science rejects your position.

 

Go figure. The Bible says that the Bible is only way to the Heaven described in the Bible and we know it must be true because the Bible says so.

Circular logic is circular.

 

Tell the millions of dead indigenous peoples of the world that Christians have been “mostly peaceful”.

 

What is 'good' in an amoral worldview? How can there be 'standards' of morality, in a purely material universe, with nothing but survival as a virtue?

They are meaningless platitudes, with no philosophical basis.

 

Does the fact that psychology can be measured and tested mean something to you? And that it can be observed?
Ever hear of Pavlov's dogs?

 

To the OP...yes, more than likely. Until at least atheism can become, if possible the major conduit for moral teachings. I am not a member of any religion, yet it is self evident that religion has been the primary conduit for moral teachings. What did the atheistic state of the USSR teach in so far as morality? Stalin and his nation were murderous scumbags, among many other evil things coming from a lack of a moral compass.

Hell, even secular humanism borrowed from christian morality. They reject the religion, the god, but not the morality, the basic morality that this religion was a conduit for.

 

Of course europe has roots, including celtic roots, gothic roots, greek roots, roman roots, etc

I majored in philosophy and have never heard of th

 

Is kiddie diddling considered the norm in religion, considering its being going on since about day one, or is that another indication of religious morals also in decline?

Social norms and morals change with each generation. I'm old enough to remember when the bikini was driving some religious moralists insane and that was LONG before the string "arse out" bikini was introduced. As a kid, you couldn't show a husband and wife in the same bed on television.

 

Christians, at least those with any kind of power, were mostly non-peaceful from the moment they rose to power in Rome until the Enlightenment. You are preaching alternative history.

 

Logic and scripture? Now that’s almost a definition of an oxymoron.

 

Anyone and everyone who refuses to accept Christ into their lives as Lord, Savior, and Master over their lives.

 

It wasn't a threat.

All employers discriminate. Some forms are illegal, and some are not. If you are going to complain about this, I don't think I'm the person to complain to.

 

Sorry,only the correct religions are invited.

 

Just in case everyone did not notice:

This is what it looks like when someone has been completely tripped up and moves the goalposts.

The huge and steady decrease in crime? Why, that's actually an increase. Duh, people. Don't you know how to misread a chart????

 

They aren't allowing false religions. Theirs is the true religion. Just ask them.
Yours is the false one, ask them.

As I said, your belief is for you and you alone. It has no impact on anyone else. For they are the Master of the OWN lives.

 

I agree. It seems anytime a religion gets tied to any political system, governance, the evil begins. At least that is what it looks like when one studies it.

Any religion that can be embraced as a state religion seems to emulate the state and the evilness that has come from all states eventually at some point. It is about power after all, different factions fighting for this power, whether internally or in regards to other nations.

Separation of church and state is a common sense thing, IMO.

 

Could you give some examples of which 'morals' have or are going, by the wayside, please?