Does Religious Freedom Supercede Gender Identity?

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  1. TheImmortal

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    There’s plenty of evidence for god. Start a thread on it and I’ll pwn you in that one too
     
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    It’s just as much my decision to make as it is any other voters. And Jesus never gives us right to harm anyone much less a child. In fact Jesus said it was better that a millstone be hung around ones neck and thrown into the ocean than for you to hurt a child.
     
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    It’s not because of religious belief. It’s basic common decency not to murder a child. I mean we have laws that make it illegal to kill a bald eagles egg and turtle eggs but not human embryos? Get serious
     
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    It does matter who performs those procedures when that organization, PP, actively participates in partisan activities by donating to liberal political campaigns which should remove their status.
     
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    You do realize David was an adulterer and Paul was a murderer right? Or did you forget that part?
     
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    Those are not mistakes. Just because you are “born that way” does not give you the green light to engage in sinful behavior. That’s patently absurd and taught as incorrect throughout the Bible.
     
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    No stating they lacked standing meant that they had no right to sue over the issue as they suffered no identifiable or demonstrable harm. As the SCOTUS stated.
     
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    According to the god given rights our founders fought to secure, as long as your religion doesn’t cause you to bring demonstrable harm upon others then yes. Hence why it’s the first amendment.

    And to be quite honest I don’t give a damn what the rest of the world says. Or people in this country for that matter. Those rights are not given by men. They are given by god. Men simply secured our right to engage in them. You can take away that secured right but you can never remove the god given rights endowed to us by our creator.
     
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    Sexual orientation is not a protected class and never will be because, unlike all the other protected classes, it is not an immutable characteristic.
     
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    We can say not only money is the cause of all evil. Sometimes religion does.
     
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    You do remember they repented, right? Both!

    Trump? Not so much.
     
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    We could also say that lack of religion is given that the most prolific mass murderers in modern times were atheist in Mao, Stalin and Hitler
     
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    That still doesn’t sound like anything that would only apply to religious people though. If something has potential to bring harm to others, nobody should be allowed to do it and if something doesn’t have the potential to bring harm, everybody should be free to do it. Whether your motivation is religious or not should be irrelevant. It would only become relevant if you wanted religious people to be free to do something that none religious people aren’t (or indeed vice-versa).

    I’m not looking to remove anyone’s rights. You might note that I’ve not supported the specific law in question, I’ve only challenged the general idea that religious people should be treated differently to non-religious people in relation to it (or anything else). :cool:

    Obviously debatable but religion most certainly isn't immutable yet that is a protected class. :)
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    He's incapable of admitting wrong. Literally!

    Let me know when he admits to the nation he made any mistake. Just once!?

    I'm not calling a he a she either.

    They can **** off for all I care. I believe in science not feelings.
     
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    To our founders and people who actually believe it is. But I see your argument. With that being said the lefts position on gender and sexual identity is by their own definition fluid and not, in any way, immutable.

    In regards to your main point, abortion is a perfect example. Abortion is an action that, even someone in the left can understand is something that a persons religion forbids and as such that person doesn’t want to violate that religious belief by practicing it. We do, however, live in a country where if it’s voted on or mandated by the courts to be a legal action then it is law and legally practiced.

    A person without a religious cause can’t simply choose to not pay taxes that support the thing he simply doesn’t agree with whereas the religious person has a constitutional exemption because in order to make him comply with the law you must violate his religious freedom. A freedom which our founders chose to specifically protect.
     
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    To YOU and the rest of us maybe. But you have no idea what he admits to God.

    But I’ll give you one. He admitted he was wrong when he voted as a democrat.
     
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    Bad quote the love of money is the root of all evil. Money is only a tool to save from having to tote about chickens or cows and like every other tool it can be used for good or evil.
     
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    :roflol:

    The ONLY thing that you have "pwned" to date is glaring LACK of relevant subject matter knowledge.

    Your OP is fallaciously premised on your beliefs in your imaginary deity for which there is ZERO EVIDENCE for it's existence.

    In summary you have nothing whatsoever other than your own misinformed opinions.
     
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    Your vote does NOT override the Constitutional RIGHTS of others!

    It does NOT matter what you believe.

    What matters is that the Constitution PROTECTS the right of women to choose whether or not to have an abortion.

    YOU don't get to make that decision for them.
     
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    :roflol:

    What is patently absurd is that you erroneously believe that YOU have a "green light" to DICTATE to others what is "sinful behavior"!
     
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    Name these "god given rights" in your bible!

    Where exactly does your bible spell out the right to freedom of religion?

    Where exactly does your bible spell out the right to not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment?

    Where exactly does your bible spell out the right to privacy?

    Where exactly does your bible spell out the right to due process?

    There are NO "god given" rights!
     
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    WRONG again!

    Hitler was a devout Catholic and Stalin trained for the priesthood!
     
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    All not true.
     
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    No it doesn’t lol. Point that out to me in the constitution. Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     

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