Does someone's weight affect your perception of them?

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Does someone's weight affect your perception of them?

  1. Yes, I think a person's weight is a reflection of them.

    35.4%
  2. Yes, I wish I didn't but I do unconsciously judge them.

    32.9%
  3. No, I wish they would take their health more seriously, but I don't judge them.

    22.0%
  4. No, weight is cosmetic and many overweight people simply can't help it..

    9.8%
  1. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I'm less tolerant of very fat people.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Obesity means their lazy and careless about their lives but some people have genetics like children who are born fat so it is hard to form a correct perception because if they were born fat its okay but if they made themselves fat its not okay

    if it is someone i have never met i would give them the benefit of the doubt that their genetics make them fat but if i find out they made themselves fat they don't deserve any pity and are judged above
     
  3. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    It would depend on the person.
     
  4. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    This morning I went to a bank to use the ATM. There are two machines in a tiny little room and the two fat people using one machine filled the room. I tapped on the door and motioned to the other machine and the fat woman stepped an inch to one side and motioned me in. I don't think so. No, I'm not that tolerant.

    Concerning the genetic basis for fat. It must be true. I remember seeing all the fat people lining the bences in Hitler's death camps. A starvation diet had no effect on them. No, sirree, they just stayed fat. Of course, that nonsense. Fat requires fuel. I saw a man enter a restaurant here in Mexico and he was huge. I glanced up and downder how he fueled that mega-body. He ordered three comida del dias. Three "blue plate specials." That's three bowls of soup, three platters of pasta, three entres, and three desserts. It isn't cheap but you can stay fat if you want to.

    For the record. I'm fat. I can still walk and wipe my butt but I'm fatter than the government wants. I'm not as fat as Barney Frank, though.

    A practical question. If you had three qualified applicants for a position but the most qualified weighed 350 pounds, would you hire that person?

    Another practical question. If you get on a plane and the person in the middle seat is 350 pounds. Will you let them bput the armrest up between you so they can be more comfortable? Will you put your dinner plate sideways so they can share your tray since their can't be lowered?
     
  5. Traditionalist

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    I have a friend now that I keep in touch with on fb. She's in her 20's and probably closing in on 300 pounds. There is no excuse to be in your 20's and be that big. She has several health probs,( overweight before health issues) but they all just came about this past yr. She's always complaining about migraines, being tired, being in pain etc. I just want to type out to her. Change your diet and start movIng!!!! I guarantee most of her symptoms would go away and her health would improve drastically if she stopped shoving food into her mouth. It's really annoying when ppl complain about their health but won't do things to change it!!! I know of others like this but she's just one example.
     
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    Honesty is that every one of us is totally judgmental about everything 24/7/365.
    Somehow "being judgmental" became a negative, when being judgmental is 100% required by the human animal. Some do not reveal their judgmentalism, or vocalize it. but we are all 100% judgmental.

    Many would find the fat person lacking, some would PREFER the fat person, both judgmental.
     
  7. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If I was an employer I would keep interviewing people until I found someone of a healthy weight. No fat people in my business - if they had a heart attack, or fell over due to their weight, I could be sued.

    Nope. (*)(*)(*)(*) em. I want the arm rest down and I am not doing anything to make them more comfortable. In fact, I would be complaining about the person next to me and demand to be moved to another seat.
     
  8. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you can kick the butts of many 20-30 year olds at 300+lbs and 60 years of age is probably more a reflection of how pathetic the former are. Imagine how much fitter you could be if you trimmed down to 230-250? Your doctor must push you to lose more weight, right?

    I feel the same way about a chain smoker as I do about an obese person. I think most people do in this day and age. Image isn't everything but its important. I won't judge someone for something innate that they have no control over. However, things like weight, haircut, clothes, etc. are all fair game in my mind. These things are all "fixable" and reflect a person's attention to detail and discipline.
     
  9. Dr. Righteous

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    stupid thread. James Harrison weighs almost 250 lbs and he's only 6'0". Does that mean he's overweight?
     
  10. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    I think you know what were talking about here. You can't be that naive. Clearly a high performance athlete like James Harrison who probably has no more than 12% BF doesn't fit into the category of obese or fat.
     
  11. Herkdriver

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    Define significantly over-weight.

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    I suppose to most, I'm "husky"...minimally.

    I agree with Subby on this however...in terms of "judging" people on the whole package and not just the wrappings.
    Not to toot my own horn; I'm also a former military officer, an Air Force pilot and I proudly served the United States for 19 years (active and reserves). I co-wrote a scheduling software that assists logistics managers. It's used by the DoD and many Fortune 500 companies...among others.

    Prostate cancer medication led to some weight gain that is still evident, but part of it was enjoying fast food and soda also...
    we may judge me on the surface but dig a little deeper... sometimes...things are not always what they seem.

    So yeah, maybe some guy and gal walks by and thinks I've led a life consisting of going from the refridgerator to the couch...then can act all smug in the satisfaction
    of having a flatter stomach.

    Big deal.
     
  12. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Herk, for 47, you seem to be pretty healthy. As I said earlier, I think people (at least I am) are more forgiving of people 45+ because at that age its biologically more difficult to stay fit/active. 15-30 extra pounds on a solidly built middle aged man is pretty normal in my mind. I'm talking about young people and people with BF% in excess of 25. I imagine 15 years ago as a pilot you were pretty fit.
     
  13. Ethereal

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    Well, I don't think it's that straightforward, which is why I said it would depend on the person. Trying to quantify fault as it pertains to someone's physiology can be very difficult, especially when you consider the impact an individual's psyche can have on their physiology.
     
  14. Ethereal

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    I don't think it's a stupid thread; it's just a difficult question to answer. There is so much variability in genes and environment that superficial judgements based solely upon weight and physical appearance can be very problematic. Still, it is an interesting topic.
     
  15. GeddonM3

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    nope not really, if they are fat or skinny as a twig thats their problem and none of my business. i react to the way you act towards me or even others.
     
  16. RPA1

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    The perception from the media is that 'fat' folks do not like themselves and/or can't take care of themselves. This is so they can guilt folks into buying their fat, salt, sodium-packed so-called 'health foods', drinks, vitamins, exercise regimes, books, .....you name it. It's all really relative within a relatively simple marketing technique.

    Advertisement, government and main stream media constantly scream at us....we are all 'fat', idiotic fools. There.....I feel better....how about you?
     
  17. drj90210

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    Sure. Since one's physicial appearance is a direct reflection on how one takes care of his body, then a rationale judgment would be that the obese person is lazy and/or indifferent to his own health concerns and outward appearance.

    I would say that there is no difference between men and women in this matter regarding societal acceptance.

    It is certainly a reflection of their self-control and willingness to lead a healthy lifestyle.
     
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    Over eating is danger to health and when be become fact, we can't do our own work also we have to depend on others
     
  19. IgnoranceisBliss

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    If someone is overweight for psychological reasons isn't their weight then a pretty good indicator of possible instabilities? I know that when I see someone who's massively obese I'm almost positive there's some psychological issues going on.
     
  20. Herkdriver

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    Younger folks today, and by young I mean under 25 y/o....
    they have a more sedentary lifestyle than say my generation and older.

    In most cases, obesity starts when a person is young. Some responsibility falls on the parenting.
     
  21. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    I think studies have shown that people often develop their eating habits from their parents. However, if at 24 I wasn't the ripped hard body I am :smile: would it reasonable for me to blame my parents?
     
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    Weight...let's see.

    Where I work there is a long and wide hallway. Yesterday I was trying to get to the lunchroom and I was behind two Orcas, each weighing about 400 pounds. To say they are fat is an understatement. well they walk slow...very slow and they waddle, not walk, making passing them impossible. besides that, looking at 4 cheeks that each weigh more than I do is revolting, especially when encased in tight pants. By the time I got to the lunchroom, I had lost my appetite.

    Now what do you think my perception of fat people is?
     
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    With both parents working, or more realistically, with the one parent working (single parent households are becoming the norm)..it's easier to order a pizza, heat up up a sodium filled frozen dinner, or go to Burger King...than to prepare a more nutritious meal. I know after a day of work, the last thing I feel like doing is cooking.

    It's difficult raising children, but the difference is, in my youth I couldn't wait to go outside and play. With X-Box, the internet, hundreds of channels on television; the entertainment is inside.

    I pass by a basketball court, or a baseball field...and I rarely see kid's playing. I don't see kid's playing street hockey, I don't see kid's riding bikes...

    You're more apt to see a kid glued to his smart phone in the mall than to see kid's playing outside.

    All these habits start in youth.
     
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    I spend a lot of time keeping in shape. I also NEVER drink soda/slushies/milkshakes/energydrinks etc. I avoid chocolate, candy and just about every other sweet thing under the sun.

    Cheap sugar is directly responsible for obesity today. Coke and other segar pushers should be forced to pay severe taxes to pay for the societal damage they do. The fact that coke is the most popular drink in the world to me is astounding.. It tastes like crap!

    For this reasons i look down on the overweight. There victims of a food market pumped with cheap carbs and artificial flavoring. But they do have the power to change there habits just as i did. More then happy to take you all out for a jog if you need..
     
  25. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Clearly sweets and fast food has an impact on obesity. I think the notion that we should presume to know what's best for people and restrict their diets is completely wrong. If someone wants to drink coke until they die then by all means let them. They better not get mad when I don't hire them or the airline makes them buy two seats though.

    I think all the starches people eat isn't helping either. Cutting back on bread, pasta, rice, potatoes etc. is often a very effective way to reduce weight.
     

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