DOJ Targets Legal Businesses for Extinction

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  1. Wizard From Oz

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    Online gambling sites have been illegal in the US since the passing of the 2006 Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA)

    So before you get outraged you probably should check your facts
     
  2. Ethereal

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    Every stupid, overbearing big government program in history has had a legal pretext for its existence. That is not an argument for its existence, though, or a defense of its shoddy and dubious enforcement methods. And you are talking about ALLEGED crimes. Just because you belong to a "class" of individuals who are more likely to be involved in criminal activity does not mean the state can single you out on that basis alone. That is classic profiling!
     
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    It absolutely does target whole industries, and I provided a list directly from the FDIC, who is working in conjunction with the DOJ on Operation Chokepoint. It targets those industries by pressuring federally regulated banks to cut off their access to the mainstream financial system, often times with no transparency or oversight of their activities. You are essentially repeating facts I have already provided and placed in context and attempting to change the version of events to accommodate your denial of this program's outrageous activities.
     
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    Is nitpicking the best you can come up with? I guess you missed the two dozen other industries I mentioned which are perfectly legal?
     
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    And in certain races, there are criminal activities and in those races, they are more susceptible than others, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable for the police to single someone out for criminal investigation and prosecution on that basis alone. There has to be probable cause to believe a crime has been committed before law enforcement can justifiably single you out for such.
     
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    How does anyone know any of the other claims you have made are falsehoods. I was just lucky to know this error because I have been following the WTO court cases the legislation triggered.
     
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    I posted numerous sources in support of my claims. A novel but effective approach would be to try reading them. You know how to read, right?
     
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    I posted the name of the legislation that was passed that makes internet gambling illegal in the USA - Not sure what I have to do. A novel approach to my reading is not to take everything I read as gospel
     
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    You have to READ the articles I posted. I don't expect you to take them as gospel. Feel free to argue with them at your leisure. I admit that I made a mistake about internet gambling, but the scope of the thread topic goes way beyond whether or not internet gambling is legal in the US. The DOJ has cast a wide investigative net over multiple fully legal sectors of the economy, a fact which you are skillfully avoiding admitting to or discussing. Gee, I wonder why!
     
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    how do you think cash businesses work. You don't need a bank to operate your business. Having a bank account makes it more convenient, easy to operate your business, but not having a bank account does not mean your business is doomed.
     
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    It isn't the industry, but certain activities within that industry that the FEDS are concentrating on.
     
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    Actually they can. What do you think Vice units do? Special crime units? Computer crime units? OC unit in the NYPD?
     
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    Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Didn't your momma ever teach you that?
     
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    So basically, you are arguing that police should not enforce the law/ Funny coming from you who criticizes Obama for not enforcing the law.
     
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    Uh, no. That is the exact opposite of what I'm saying. I'm saying that profiling is against the law, whether it's racial profiling or business profiling. Apparently, you have no problem with either.

    Where did I do that?
     
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    Where were you when the government was legislating farmers and mom and pops out of existence?

    Same story since the Whiskey Rebellions. If the right politicians are elected in a republic anything is possible. Today we have two parties involved in the same scam, cronyism at it's finest, and while the population argues about social issues, the best government corporate money can buy is manipulating the economy, and running interference for a small elite minority.
     
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    Complaining, most likely.

    I agree.
     
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    Not all profiling is against the law. Just profiling based on race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, etc.

    I can profile you based on the color of your hair, the clothes you wear, your height, your weight, or where you live. That is all legal. Advertisers do this based on your zip code, income, car you drive, whether you rent or own, fico score, etc. Again, all legal.

    Again, how you profile a person is the real question, not whether one should profile you.
     
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    More on this disgusting, unconstitutional program:

    [video=youtube;fcNV4PTjED8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcNV4PTjED8[/video]
     
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    I'm in Australia, and even I can see that this is bloody wrong...those businesses are getting "the raw
    end of the prawn" as we say....wrong...bloody wrong...
    Doesnt some amendment cover this....restraint of trade or something...
     
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    I would say it's covered by numerous provisions in the Bill of Rights about due process of law, as well as the Fourteenth Amendment's provision concerning equal protection under the law. Unfortunately, suing the federal government for a violation of your constitutional rights can be a costly and painstaking undertaking.
     
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    Most likely because a lot of exotic dancers get paid in tips and don't report their income for taxes - I've heard stories about strippers at high-end clubs making quite a handsome income, but not reporting any of it and simultaneously applying for food stamps while driving around in Mercedes
     
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    Not sure I follow you.
     
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    Are you in the right thread?
     

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