Donald Trump Claims He Donated $150K from Qaddafi in 2009, But Tax Returns Only Show $23K to Charity

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  1. Sleep Monster

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    Seriously?

    Bernie is upper middle class at best. Prove otherwise if you can.
     
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    Nuf said.. the hate is on you and your ilk.
     
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    Well, for one thing, the United States hadn't had any problems with Quadafi in many years before or during 2009. Obama overthrew his legitimate government in 2011 in order to kiss France's ass, but America had no 'beef' with Libya in 2009... have we got that straight now?

    For another thing, it is nobody's (NOBODY'S) damn business who much someone else gives to "charity", if he/she gives to "charity" at all! Have we got that straight also...? Good! That's enough on a thoroughly stupid topic like this one is.

    People who want to hate Trump are going to do it, even if they have to scrape to find a reason.... :lol:
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Enough said, indeed. I've been going through my Ignore list, giving some of the most hateful users a second chance. That was yours. There is no logic or reason to your snarky comments.
     
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  6. Bush Lawyer

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    Evidence please, not gossip.
     
  7. struth

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    maybe eyewitnesses aren’t considered evidence in Courts down under but they certainly are in the USA
     
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    Let us go back to 2009. I have a feeling you know that at that time.Qaddafi was acting head of the African Union and stated he was going to create a gold-backed African currency to compete with the dollar and euro which would have meant oil and all resources in Africa would be traded in Gold. You might also be aware that during his tenure African nations met twice to discuss monetary unification under one currency. In fact Mummar suggested they use the Libyan dinar and the silver dirham as the unified currency to buy African oil. At that gtim ethe gold dinar was issued by the Central Bank of Libya (CBL) and any foreigner had to go through the CBL to do business with Libya. The Central Bank of Libya issued the dinar, using the country’s 143.8 tons of gold.

    So it became apparent African oil-producing nations were planning to abandon the petrodollar, and demand gold payment for oil/gas. Had that happened, it would have had severe negative impacted on the American dollar. That gold-backed currency would have threatened the central bankers and their aligned political and media leaders, who control not only the money and currency rates of the world.

    Qaddafi also suggested they could use that new currency to purchase other resources in exclusion of the dollar and other Euro currencies thereby shifting the economic balance of the world. Its the same reason the US has had a problem with Iran when it changed the currency of trade for oil from the US dollar to the Euro. If one prices oil in a currency other than the dollar it would necesdsarily weaken the basis of US power in the world by weakening its currency value. Gaddafi's proposing a Gold currency would necessaruly have devalued the Euro and American dollar and for that matter all Western currencies.

    So that in very simplifyting terms was probably at the pith and substance of not just the French, Germans, British, Italians and even us Canada, but the US in overthrowing Ghaddafi. Regardless of whether it was a Republican or Democrat government the same desire to get rid of him would have arose and occurred and add to that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE, Dubai and Bahrain did not want Ghaddafi messing with the economies they needed to sell their oil too.

    Ghaddafi we must also point out was considered a strongly ally of China and Russia in Africa and extremist Muslim terror cells seekingt o overthrow Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain. Ghaddafi was also considered a prime ally of Iran and Syria who were considered part of a Chinese Russian alliance with Libya and Iran competing with Saudi Arabia, UAE and Bahrain for control of OPEC. Ghaddafi had also made alliances with Venezuela another key OPEC producer that was now allowing itself to be used as a banking shelter for extreme Muslim terror cell investments.

    All of this is now documented and no one should be surprised why Ghaddafi by taking on the world economies signed his own death warrant.

    The fact is Ghaddafi had killed up to a million of his own citizens and millions in other African, Middle East and European countries from terrorist cells or his own army he sent into these nations.He committed massacres in Dahomey, Niger, Chad, Burkina Fauso, Mali, Malawi, Central African Republic, Sudan, to name a few. Let's not pretend he was a good stable man. He was always a sick, twisted, war criminal. He got away with his crimes as long as he sold oil to Europe and did not threaten world currencies.

    The US problem was they disagreed on how to take Ghaddadi out. NATO other than Trump wanted a quick air war and the insertion of a puppet. The US wanted to use a coalition of Muslim Brotherhood forces that would then take the military hardware given to them to overthrow Ghaddafi and move with it to Syria to depose Assad. Instead after taking out Ghaddafi, those same alleged Muslim Brotherhood allies that Obama thought were his friends based on his Muslim Brotherhood ties to Egypt and Turkey and his brother in Sudan, turned on him.

    The key mistake was that Obama's Muslim Brotherhood connection which he thought he could use to forge a new alliance in Africa and the Middle East blew up in Obama's face.
     
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    That's truly a fascinating account of Qaddafi's activities in Africa, and, no, I had no idea that he was trying to coordinate and manipulate the economies of other countries, although I'm not surprised. Frankly, I didn't know he was clever enough to try.... The realization that his forces were committing murders all over Africa is also unsurprising -- that whole part of the world is one gigantic 'killing field', and it has been ever since the Europeans left....

    I think we all knew he was no 'sweetheart' at all, but in the year 2009 he wasn't being an overt pain-in-the-ass to the United States. Nevertheless, and probably because of some of the reasons you've detailed, the decision was made to get rid of him. So, up steps Obama, always a friend to 'internationalism' and the French and he gives the order to the U. S. military to overthrow Qaddafi's government. The next thing you know, the Muslim Brotherhood goes from certain defeat to being victors, and the rest is even more sickening history.

    To this day, we haven't been able to reopen our United States Embassy in Tripoli after it had to be evacuated on an emergency basis in 2014, thanks to the radical Muslim takeover of Libya that occurred in 2011 only because of Obama's interference.
     
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  10. Bush Lawyer

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    Name this eye witness.
     
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    he was on national TV and just interviewed by the FBI. Maybe you should educate yourself
     
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    I trust you enough to say... get a little closer so I can whisper this... I know I am bad because I am so suspicious without putting my finger on a good reason - but I don't always believe Mr. President Trump tells us the complete truth about his taxes.
     
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    Name this eye witness. What TV Station. Show me a link to this alleged interview by the FBI.
     
  14. struth

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    geez...why do you post here when you are so uninformed?

    in fact a question like that, makes you a troll
     
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  15. Bush Lawyer

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    No. A question like that, one you cower away from, makes your allegations look pretty wafer thin. Is Bubulinsky the guy you are referring to?
     
  16. struth

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    but the investigator are still working
     
  17. Bush Lawyer

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    You did not answer my question (again.) Is Bubulinsky the guy you are referring to?
     
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    sorry i missed you asked about the evidence
     
  19. Bush Lawyer

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    Focus struth.

    Is Bubulinsky the guy you are referring to?
     
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    he is an eyewitness...that interviewed with the FBI
     
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    Jayzuz!!! Just answer with yes or no.

    Is Bubulinsky the guy you are referring to?
     
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    No issue with the man who has the blood of USA civilians and servicemen.
     
  23. struth

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    yes, you spelled his name wrong though
     
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    wow...so did Saddam
     
  25. Pollycy

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    Your reply had nothing to do with Qaddafi, 2009, "charity", or anything else, really.... And, I cannot even imagine what your are referring to with a mindless, directionless phrase like, "No issue with the man who has the blood of USA civilians and servicemen." Do you actually think about things before you write them?

    I blame this largely on what passes for 'public education' in the United States, which for the last 40 years has churned out little but shallow-minded, politically-correct drones who bear the permanent impairment of being utterly unable to process and analyze complex thoughts, or to express them at all.... :psychoitc:
     

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