Donald Trump: how COVID-19 killed his hope of re-election – new research

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  1. Moolk

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    He destroyed his opponent per the rules of the election.

    Obama was a genuine affirmative action president, accomplishing nothing lmao.

    Trump outperformed obama easily.
     
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    Obama won both the popular vote and the EC both times, Trump won because of Affirmative action for the smaller States

    Trump is a one term loser of a President
     
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    Obama won because of his skin color, a genuine affirmative action president. People just thought it would be historic lol. Yet he did nothing in office and was outperformed in just 3 years by Trump, while Trump spent far less than Obama did.
     
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    Boris Johnson screwed up his Covid response so badly that he caught it and nearly died. Then he came back and won a general election with the biggest Conservative majority since Thatcher.
    How did he achieve this despite the pandemic killing tens of thousands in an election year? He admitted he had got it wrong and reacted. He didn't just double down on his previous mistakes and stand in front of a huge crowd saying he accepted no responsibility.
    In a word, leadership.
     
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    Excluding the facts that trump spent almost double what Obama did, left with a worse economy than he entered with, never had a day of majority approval... Obama won both the EC and PV twice while trump never achieved it once.

    The only thing trump did better on was getting impeached
     
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    Afraid I don't keep up with UK politics. Trump's leadership style was atrocious, but GW and Obama's was not and it made absolutely 0 difference with the bias in the media and the rhetoric coming from the two parties. It is hard to say Trump would not have won with a little humility though. And at the same time I don't think Obama would have survived a disaster like COVID-19 either. Both would have been close.
     
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    Trump spent less than obama while having a far better economy, this is objectively true.

    Obama won those by being an affirmative action president, people simply thought it would be historic.

    regardless, Trumps economy was far better while spending far less
     
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    Have you ever kept up with history?
    Usually during a time of crisis a country rallies around its leader. Bush and Giuliani after 9/11, Thatcher after the Falklands crisis etc.
    All Trump had to do was pretend to care and he'd have won in a landslide. Instead he downplayed, misinformed and ridiculed. He held superspreader rallies, blamed China and proudly proclaimed that he accepted no responsibility.
     
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    Fact: trump spent more and had less results
    Also fact: impeached and removed by the people
     
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    Fact: Trump spent less money than obama and had a far better economy

    This will remain true regardless of howw much you hate this.
     
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    Gosh. The revelation. Of course we already knew this... but .....


     
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    Exactly what 'red tape' did he remove? Safeguards?
     
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    You live a lie by abridging his comments and taking them out of context. How many times did you and the dems denounce the street rioting, the arson, the deaths, the violence, the looting, the desecration, the statue tumblings, and the overall mayhem that went on for months in mostly democrat run cities?

    Sorry, but you have no standing on this issue.
     
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    show me Trump's tweets denouncing that chant, you and I both know if Trump cared there would be a twitter trail, not even one tweet?
     
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    trump added more debt in 4 years than Obama did in 8
    And is leaving with an economy in worse shape than he started with

    Amazing that Republicans can destroy a good economy so quickly
     
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    It should be stated that much of the mayhem in these cities was created by right wing groups trying to derail peaceful protests.
     
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    What you're stating exists only in your mind, completely unmoored from reality; about what I'd expect from you.
     
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    You'd have to be familiar with drug approval process it normally takes more than about six months to get a drug approved.
     
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    Um......so what drug was approved withing six months because of what red tape Humpty removed?
     
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    Trump had a far better economy than Obama while spending less during his first three than Obama did. This is factual no matter how much you hate it. Obama was an affirmative action president that got outperformed by Trump easily.
     
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    Boy ......... you've watched too much of Hannity and Fox News !

    In a time of good economic activity Trump has been able to Grow the Deficit by almost $4 Trillion Dollars

    The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated that the policies Trump campaigned on in 2016 and then pushed while in office will add $3.9 trillion to the fiscal deficit through 2026. The estimate excludes costs to deal with the coronavirus which it said were unforeseen.

    The bulk of the cost comes from three culprits, the group said: the 2017 tax overhaul, higher military and veterans outlays, and two agreements reached with Congress to put spending over and above caps on annual government outlays.
     
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    I haven’t watched hannity, so you are already off to a bad start as your entire thought process is based on a fake premise.

    The objective fact remains that Trump spent less money im his first 3 years while having a better unemployment and lfpr and less on give assistance that Obama while Obama spent far more in his first 3 years.

    Trump outperformed Obama easily while spending less. This is true regardless of how much you may dislike it.
     
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    Yes. It was.

    Trump is a machete and a red tape jungle.
     
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    What, was?
     

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