Donald Trump's Ego Is Going to Further Polarize American Politics

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    So, you're overwhelmed by the evidence.



    Ah, the hackneyed tack of trying to deny the reality, significance, or wrongness of white racism and its concretizations by pointing out what superficially appear to be comparable phenomena produced by people of color. Yes, what simplemindedness this evinces. My favorite is the charge that it's racist for African Americans to have a cable network (BET) that's specifically geared for their entertainment. The middle-aged white male (and yes, it's more often than not a middle-aged white male) who makes this observation usually phrases it thus: "Why is it okay for them to have their own network, but a network called White Entertainment Television would be considered racist?" The failure to take on board the reality that mainstream channels and programming are in fact White Entertainment Television, simply without that inflammatory explicit handle; the disinclination to recognize the continued existence of racism in our society, and to apprehend how this makes it necessary for people of color to create their own thing, their own beauty pageants, TV networks, record labels, etc.; the inability to appreciate that the self-empowering responses of oppressed minority groups to the systemic racism of our society can't be equated with the supremacism of members of its hegemonic white majority; all of this expresses a false consciousness, intellectual dishonesty, and dull-wittedness that would be laughable if it wasn't also such a significant factor in perpetuating our society's unofficial but quite structural racism. And this, alas, is the same sort of dissembling, delusive, and dumb mentality that you express with your above question. Ergo, the only appropriate response is to reveal, condemn, and contemn the mentality behind the question, which I hope I've done in an effective fashion.
     
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    Does this mean the wall isn't racist? :confusion:
     
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    Hmm, not interested in analyzing the mentality underlying the question I see. (And of course your predictable tit-for-tat comeback will be: "Hmm, not interested in answering the question I see" :yawn:)
     
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    Your long-winded diatribe was in direct response to that question of whether the wall is racist, and now you are saying that you aren't interested in answering the question?

    Dude, you have a bit of a probem with answering with logic, preferring these ridiculous tome-like responses filled with pejoratives and emotion.

    If you want to hang here, you're going to have to figure out how to deal with logic, first. Your hatred is well understood, but without an ability to go from premise to premise and arriving at a conclusion, you're just jawing for the sake of jawing.

    Just my two cents.

    Either deal with ideas, or retire. You have no ideas.
     
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    Everything is racist nowadays.
     
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    Hmm, you're obviously all too generously confusing the rationalization, paralogism, sophistry, and false consciousness characteristic of rightist arguments and thinking with reason and logic. Rightists in fact seldom offer actual, authentic logical arguments to dissect and refute. That is, their social and political positions are decidedly psychological rather than logical; mm-hmm, one is confronted by their bigoted and reactionary psychology, which one then has no choice but to critically and somewhat polemically analyze.
     
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    Thanks to Mr. Trump the crypto-racism of the conservative camp is now more openly and glaringly on display.
     
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    So, if the outcome of the election, thanks to the intervention of FBI Director James Comey, is the tragic-for-the-nation and catastrophic victory of Mr. Trump will there be a fire in the Reichstag kind of event that will be blamed on Muslim terrorists of Mexican descent, and which will allow him to segue to declaring martial law and assuming more dictatorial powers? Will he recruit a personal security force from the ranks of Second Amendment nuts, deputized by the Secret Service and issued sharp-looking uniforms with armbands that say SS, ostensibly for Secret Service? Will he have detention facilities constructed, initially for hispanic immigrants and Middle Easterners, but which will, for flimsy and phony reasons of national security, eventually be repurposed as internment camps for anyone deemed a threat to his regime, progressives, feminists, African American activists, ACLU attorneys, Amnesty International activists, et al? Will he function to impose in a more fascist fashion than ever before the hegemony of the capitalist ruling class, the tyranny of the big business-ocracy that already runs the economico-political show behind the facade of representative government designed by the elitist Founding Fathers? Will his delusions of being an alpha male morph him from president into the kind of political strong man who operates with zero respect for democratic principles and values? Will we wind up with an American Duce or Führer-lite? Is it indeed conceivable that a “constitutional dictatorship” will replace our bourgeois democracy? Or am I simply allowing my worried imagination to run away with me? Well, perhaps I’ve been influenced to do so by the rabid doomsaying of conservative anti-Clintonistas, who envision Mrs. Clinton kicking off the end of days if she wins the White House. At any rate, a win for Trump will definitely be an epic fail for our political system, and conceivably lay our already gravely ill polity upon its deathbed. Oh well, we’ll simply have to wait and see how it all plays out.
     
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    Come now, dear Trumpites, don't you have any ability to perceive what a truly dreadful and dangerous character Mr. Trump is?
     
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    Hillary is more dangerous.
    She gets elected and we get a Siamese twin cobra.
     
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    Mr. Trump is a narcissistic, sociopathic capitalist elite with zero genuine compassion for working-class white Americans, plus a racist, plus a sexist, plus utterly incompetent and temperamentally unfit (to use the stock but accurate expression of his critics), and yet you seriously think that Mrs. Clinton is more dangerous. Methinks that your bias is showing.

    (And, before you shoot back that my pro-Clinton bias or blind spot is showing, let me correct that misimpression, FYI no, I'm not at all a fan of Mrs. Clinton. As a Marxist, someone like Mrs. Clinton who's made a career of being a consenting party to the capitalist status quo doesn't appeal to me at all. Alas, she's not at all the anti-capitalist and crypto-Marxist that her conservative haters vilify her as, therefore I don't exactly have a pro-Clinton bumper sticker on my car. I simply don't fancy cutting out the middleman sell-out politician [in this case Mrs. Clinton] and electing a member of the capitalist ruling class like Mr. Trump to directly represent the special interests of the superrich – a member of the capitalist ruling class who's also exceedingly personally flawed and dangerous, again, he's a sexist, a sexual harasser, a xenophobe, a racist, and a sociopath after all.)

    Perhaps this will enlighten you about how potentially dangerous Mr. Trump would be if elected president,
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/
     
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    So essentially Donald Trump is as corrupt as Hillary Clinton and as big of a liar and as huge of a racist nation-hater as Barack Obama? But unlike those two he is actually competent?
     
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    Love your copy and paste work Mr Charleslb :)
     
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    Would you care to actually reply to the content of any of my posts?
     
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    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is your claim that Mr. Trump is competent meant to be hilarious? Well, it certainly is. And no, Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have never given any evidence whatsoever of being racists. You and your fellow rightists/whitists are merely projecting your own sins.
     
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    Only if is worth it.
     
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    A petty comeback.
     
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    Matter of opinion just like everything else here.
     
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    No, I'm overwhelmed with claims that I have to respond. Pick one and go from there.



    You're projecting. Besides, I'm black.

    Simple logic. If blacks can have their network and not be called racist then whites can also.

    Do you have evidence that the rest of the networks are white? And its not so much the color, its the name. Not only that but in that entire long winded rant you never once answered the question. Why is are wall racist but Mexico's isn't?
     
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    Yes, you and your ideological confederates in the Hate Hillary camp really are somewhat like cult members, who put up walls to keep out any criticism or truth that calls their pseudotruth into question.
     
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    Hilary Clinton is the ultimate whiner. The Russians are picking on me! The FBI is out to get me! None stop crying and sobbing as an extreme paranoid sociopath.
     
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    To be a woman or a person of color and a Trumpite is, well, to put it mildly, paradoxical (to be honest, the first adjective that jumped to mind was "perverse").

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    You're simply projecting on behalf of your candidate, an indication that you vicariously identify with him a tad too much.
     
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    Well, I'm not a relativist, so I would observe that not all opinions are created equal, that some are indeed more intelligent and have more truth content than others.
     
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    it's not just his ego, his stupidity and desire to screw the USA are worse
     

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