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  1. rahl

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    worst? lol. UE went from over 10% to under 5%. Stock market doubled under him to record highs. He has the most consecutive months of jobs growth than any other president.

    Pretending he wasn't a success just make you look silly.
     
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    Then again, I can't help you. I can't understand it for you.
     
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    lol, no. Bush caused the recession. Obama pulled us out.
     
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    Nope from 4.8 to 4.1 with improving LFPR. Obama took it from 7.3 to 10 with his stimulus and kept it over 9% for three years, over 7% for the next two.
    And it took most of Obama's term just to get the stock market back to where it was before the recession and even double from the bottom. We are on track to double in just three years now.
     
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    What strawman I'm trying to figure out your position here

    Wait a minute, Trump had nothing to do with the economy this year because it is his first year and presidents don't affect first year economies but in Obama's first year he turned around the economy and saved us from a depression and stopped the job rate loss.

    Care to reconcile the positions here?
     
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    What legislation did trump pass that caused this?

    Obama took it from over 10% to under 5%. This is just reality, and is not debatable.
     
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    the one you posted. Nobody said Obama turned around the recession in 2009. because it wasn't turned around in 2009.
     
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    I see you also can't read a chart.

    Must be tough.
     
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    They don't understand what "strawman" means.

    They just heard it used as an insult so they adopted it.

    You know, like "racist" and "nazi".
     
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    Job-cut announcements in 2017 see lowest level since 1990
    Dow Industrials Cross 25000 for First Time

    And lowest UE rate since 2001

    You guys just can't stand it.



     
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    Yep I know............I know
     
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    Nope we pulled out of it the first year along with the dramatic turn in the job loss rate which according to you would have been impossible for Obama to have done since it was first year.
     
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    lol, the chart literally shows the economy growing every year under Obama. You guys are ****ing hilarious.
     
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    strawman is when you guys make **** up, and pretend we said it. Like what bluesy did.
     
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    yep
     
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    Why do you assert that "things" only happen through legislation?
     
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    So you admit that anyone who says Obama turned around the economy would be lying? What did I make up?
     
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    Are you denying the recession ended in June of 2009 and the job rate losses bottomed out January of 2009........yes or no?
     
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    They rely solely on the out of context statement that he had the longest record growth or longest record of job growth. Of course if the economy grew just .000001% a month for 96 months it would be a horrible job growth record. If unemployment improved just .000001% for 96 months it would be a horrible unemployment record. They leave out the important context of HOW MUCH.
     
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    incorrect. massive deregulation has occurred since trump took office.

    if you had read the link i provided, instead of delete it because it proves you wrong, you would see that.
     
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    it's the weakest recovery in american history rahl. even you can admit that.
     
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    After starting at 7.3% and yes going to 10% under his stimulus and staying over 9% for the next 3 years and then over 7% for the next two with the horrible decline in LFPR is the worst record in modern time. What was good about it? And of course it doesn't just turn on who is president, it turns on who has majority control of government policy which the Democrats took in 2007 when the UE rate was 4.6% and a thriving economy.
     
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    How much growth?
     
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    the american economy can bounce back almost instantly.

    but not if there's no optimism, like in the case of obama.
     
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    Indeed.

    It just did.
     

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