Dumb, is Lethal

http://www.ruralweekly.com.au/news/cattle-industry-costly-class-action-demand-compo/2037884/

A COSTLY class-action against the new Federal Government is brewing as the cattle industry demands compensation for losses caused by the 2011 ban on live exports.

It comes as Indonesia this week agreed to take more Australian cattle following a visit by Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

McCullough Robertson litigator Trent Thorne said he tried to negotiate a solution on behalf of his clients with former Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig but found him hamstrung on the policy.

"From the previous government's point of view, it was a political issue," he said.

"I don't see that problem with the current government."

By Mr Thorne's estimates, the month-long ban in mid-2011 destroyed more than $600 million in value for the industry.

He said between four major pastoral companies, $100 million had been wiped from their property values.

Mr Thorne would not discuss estimates of compensation, but said some of his clients lost "well into the tens of millions of dollars".

AgForce Queensland Charles Burke knew of the legal manoeuvring and said he was not surprised by the action.

"Some people who were severely impacted by the ban in 2011 have experienced a significant loss of income," Mr Burke said.

"It will be interesting to see how it unfolds."

Mr Thorne said he expected to arrange negotiations with Mr Joyce and the Department of Agriculture before the year's end.

If an appropriate agreement cannot be reached, Mr Thorne said a class action would be considered as the next step.

Mr Joyce declined to comment.

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The damage done to Australia`s live cattle industry, the resultant animal cruelty, ruined lives, hardship imposed on Indonesians, and damage done to our relationship with Indonesia, can be put down to one thing, stupidity. Any primary school child of average intelligence, could have foreseen the consequences of the ban on live cattle export to Indonesia.

How do we protect ourselves from decisions based purely on emotion, not properly thought out decisions made by amateurs? We need no better example that there needs to be a process in place to protect Australians from this type of amateurism.

How do we implement a safeguard against incompetence of this type?

I respectfully request that posters who fail to see the import of this issue, on the basis that has hurt those "other people", do not reply.

 

Send them already processed meat. If they won't take it due to their religion then maybe we shouldn't send them any? You know, not bow down to Indonesia as you and your ilk are always going on about.

 

Thanks for the example of what I`m talking about. Shallow thinking, callous disregard for others, is a recipe for disaster, and has proved so in this case.
1. You failed to address the incompetent mismanagement by the Gillard Amateur Government, and the resultant disastrous consequences.
2. Jackbooted actions such as this have no place in a civilised country. Your lack of concern for the wellbeing of fellow Australians, and animals, is noted.
3. There was an arrangement in place, Australia can`t process stock at a competitive rate, and Indonesians need the jobs. Your answer, kill the industry.
4. You obviously ignored my request. "I respectfully request that posters who fail to see the import of this issue, on the basis that has hurt those "other people", do not reply."

 

1. Yes, the entire economy crashed, meteorites rained from the skies and the Sun turned into a Red Giant. It was horrible.
2. Yes, stopping the torture of animals is totally against their wellbeing. As we know animals just loved being tortured.
3. Yes, no cow farmers anymore. They all went broke.
4. Take it to PM.

 

Your a bad boy. You were respectfully asked not to reply.

 

We should ban live animal exports. It's a barbaric activity. As has already been explained here there are plenty of other more ethical and equally viable ways to export meat. Now why would such a ban be illegal or allow its "victims" (hardly) to get compensation?

 

Yeah, how dare I respond in a public post!

 

The ban actually caused animal cruelty. This is an example of the damage dumb people do when they dictate.

 

Evidence?

That has yet to be seen

 

This is obviously a big joke to you. Just remember, what goes around, comes around.

 

No, it doesn't

 

If you aren`t aware of these two basic, common knowledge facts. Or if you are prepared to callously disregard the facts, treat this as a joke. You aren`t qualified to comment.

 

It will. It`s not realistic to sit in an ivory tower, be involved in, and laugh at the destruction of other people`s lives, and expect to be immune to the realities of life yourself.

 

All ad hominem. Please provide evidence for your claim.

 

In this case I don't find that argument compelling in the slightest.

 

Sorry, I`m not your mummy. It`s not my job to educate you to a level where you can hold an adult conversation. Do some homework, and get back when you can keep up.

 

Ad hominem and appeal to authority. Ill state it again, please provide evidence for your assertion. There is no requirement for me to know anything to debate you let alone ask you to justify your own claims. Watching you squirm is quite hilarious though. You have no evidence do you?

 

No it doesn't. There is no force known as karma.

 

This OP seems to be walking on stilts

 

Re this topic. Re those who don`t "get it", there is no force known as intelligence. When "dumb", as in this case, becomes a decision making factor, lethal blunders occur, as is the case in this instance. Not being aware, or capable of comprehending the damage done by the idiotic live cattle ban, dosen`t make it any less real. Dumb is lethal.

 

Remind me again how many people died due to this?

Never go full retard.

 

lol......I think many have come to the clear conclusion that certain individuals simply have little to no substance, just their deluded and unfortunate view of the world. The "all is fair in love and war" mentality runs across all circumstances and situations! Sad, simply sad!

 

Farmers were driven to suicide. Big joke?
Dumb is lethal.

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Farmers were driven to suicide. Big joke?
Dumb is lethal.

 

Lives were destroyed by the live cattle export ban. Relations with an important trading partner were severely damaged. The Australian economy suffered a huge and unnecessary loss. To not be capable of comprehension of these commonly known facts, or to callously disregard the fate of "other people", is to confirm that DUMB IS LETHAL.

 

Remember people, we should do whatever Indonesia wants.