Eddie Van Halen dead

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see. People who sleep around DESERVE to die. Papilloma is GOOD for us, as it kills those of our own children who aren't chaste

    Look, why are all conservative Christian types such ****** MEAN ASS EUNUCHS anyway. Are they all THAT jealous of anyone who gets laid regularly or what?

    Keep in mind I'm not directing this at anyone personally. Just asking.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I'm just saying that people who don't don't need absurd things like vaccines for STDs.

    You're not able to see how that is not normal?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if your daughter is sleeping around with an endless array of boys every night and you're unable to control her, then by all means, go get her vaccinated.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your type are wacky and crazy! Vaccines for STDs are NOT normal!!! People shouldn't be having to get these vaccines.
    If they do then there's something wrong!!!

    Go read that thread about the terrible things that Gardasil did to those teens.

    That's just a little cost to you of "total sexual liberation", isn't it.

    You just want to imagine you can do whatever you want, and there's a magical little pill to solve all your problems that won't have any severe side effects.
    That seems to be the type of mentality at play here.
     
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    Are you sure that it wasn’t from all of those cigarettes that he smoked over the years?
     
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    TBH, any time I hear of someone dying from throat or pancreatic cancer I usually assume this. When they are relatively young and die from rectal cancer, I assume something else.....
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So one's own child should die of cancer to satisfy one's fanatical religious conviction that everyone should cut their balls off? Go emulate the Skoptsi or the "Church Father" Origern

    I really wish people like that would actually practice what they preached and not have any sex at all, even for procreation, like the Shakers, but they're all dead and good riddance.

    You just want to imagine that an all-loving god sits around all day and comes up with terrible diseases to give us if we use the bodies God gave us in the way they were intended to be
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    EVERYONE should be vaccinated for Papilloma, it should be an eradicated disease by now but the "Christian" would rather thousands of us die

    Why are Christians trying so hard to kill everyone? Why are they so in love with death?
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What's abnormal about having sex?
     
  10. kazenatsu

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    Don't you mean what's abnormal about having sex in such a way that your risk of STDs is so high you need a potentially risky vaccine that will only deal with one of those numerous possible STDs?
     
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    I have a feeling that Christians, by and large, are not the ones making this disease go around...
     
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    It sounds like you want everyone to be forced to be vaccinated, to make your "lifestyle" ideal you support more convenient.

    This is only ONE particular disease we are talking about, there are countless others.

    How many injections will we need? Will we have to be injected with the full range of different vaccines, covering ALL of the long list of STDs??
    And several of them don't even have a cure.
     
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    I guess if a thread about Van Halen has to be hijacked, HPV is perhaps an apt diversion.....

     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    HPV related cancers kill thousands every year. This vaccine is easy and can save them all. This is a no-brainer except for moralistic fanatics who in this area seem to have no brains
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It's not hijacking a thread about someone's death to talk about the cause of someone's death. Far from it, I would think.

    I think Hendrix was the lesser musician, but not by any really audible degree. Genius does not lend itself to comparison
     
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    Then those people who are at much higher risk than others should get the vaccine.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct, this side discussion about HPV is hijacking this thread.
     
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yes, they should.

    I am a proud and total modernist. I believe in compulsory vaccines for everybody for almost everything where effective, easy and provably safe vaccines exist. I think that in most cases any risks are far less than the diseases they protect from and any concerns about risks and "freedom" are silly and misplaced. Freedom does have limits and protecting our population, and your and my children, from horrible diseases is one area where no rational basis for discussion can be found.

    For god's sake look at all the awful maladies vaccines have eliminated. Look at the actual eradication of smallpox, one of the greatest scourges on humanity that has ever existed. That achievement alone would and should justify compulsory vaccines for just about anything I can think of
     
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    So one group has to get vaccines due to the lifestyle choices of another group?

    How does that make any sense or is fair?

    How would you like it if, instead, Anti-Vaxxers decided to clamp down on your lifestyle, criminalizing free sex, so that no one had to get vaccinations?
    Try to imagine if the tables were turned.

    If a Catholic nun develops terrible side effects from this unneeded vaccine that was forced upon her, and becomes permanently wheelchair-bound as a result, can she sue anyone?
    Can she sue the ones who forced the vaccine upon her?

    (The vaccine-makers should not be the ones to be sued because this was already a known risk. But I have a feeling a progressive like you wouldn't let that stop you from allowing the blame to be put on the big company)
     
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  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    If the "tables were turned" I would fight it, as the "tables" would then be in the favor of evil.

    Good and evil do exist. You and I disagree on what composes one and the other but our response to what we regard as evil is the same.
     
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    It depends on the individual case, like all liabilities
     
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    EVERYONE should not have to be vaccinated for something that mainly is only going to affect a particular group of people. Especially when susceptibility to that disease is (almost entirely) a lifestyle choice.

    Too bad, you'll just have to live with the risk of cancer. It's not fair for you to expect other people to have to take on unnecessary unjustified risks for your benefit.
     
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    Would you force a young teen from a Christian family to get the vaccine, if she says she is going to wait to have sex and is only going to have sex with one committed partner?

    Or would you force the risks of the vaccine upon her?
     
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  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No the risks of the virus are much less than the risk of not getting it. You're forcing me to take a much larger risk than I would have otherwise and I, therefore, have legitimate cause to say the government is not protecting me as it should
     
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    You're taking that risk of your own accord.

    It seems you believe you have the right to make other people assume risk, to reduce the risk of your own.

    under the "maximum social benefit" rationale
     
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