Educated vs "Non-Educated"

let’s get real. We here this in every debate.....someone on the right is a farmer, someone on the right is a scientist, or whatever else they need to be to make a point. It has no validity. You can be just as uninformed as any person on the street.

 

Liberals balanced the budget too. They’re going to use science to solve problems instead of relying on the wizard of Oz and his cabinet of munchkins.

 

Check out my posing history. If you don’t believe me, offer something substantial to counter my assertions.

 

I never said I didn’t believe you were a farmer...read my post. It doesn’t matter what you were, you’re still wrong.
I can find a person in any occupation with an agenda and is just as wrong....because they don’t research facts from reliable institutions.

 

That’s great. I love science.

 

They act like it's a savings program. It isn't.

I don't. The transfer is from workers to retirees.

 

Sure, as usual you just say I’m wrong with no evidence. We are supposed to believe everything you say with nothing to back it up. You’re full of hot air.

 

Sure, I used to love Linda Carter, but I knew little about her too.

 

I’m involved with scientific pursuit every day. You read Bloomberg. Meh.

 

Nope, you don’t have to believe an effin word I say. But at least I look stuff up and not make stuff up. You’ve never heard me claim to be an expert in anything......but I know where to look for the better answers to problems. It’s not from joe blow at the bar.

 

Oh sure. Then prove it and say stuff that indicates you know what science is. Bloomberg does.

 

Don’t drink so never met joe blow. In two days all you’ve done is contradict. You’ve offered no sources or studies or research. When you have something concrete to discuss I’ll be here. For now I’m tired of your baseless opinions. I’ve enjoyed our discussion. Take care.

 

And you say I’m filled lot if hot air ? You’re the one promoting himself, not me. Trump-a-do , another stable genius

 

I’ve pretty much used you’re own and the false conclusions you made.

 

Check my posting history. Anything you can find that isn’t correct I’ll happily discuss as long as you provide some documentation to go with your opinion.

 

I’m not going to play “ gotcha” it doesn’t mean anything, But if anyone misuses math or science because they have an agenda, it should be called out. Math and science are key problem solving disciplines to nearly all our problems.

 

No they don’t. They act like it’s an insurance program....
There is a big difference........look up the difference between insurance and savings accounts. It’s retirement and disability INSURANCE. Their WEBSITE says it all.

 

Yes, social services .. funded by the profits of robust capitalism. Luxuries not easily afforded in low or no profit societies. You will have noticed the difference, each time you left the democratic First World, I'm sure.

No genuinely socialist society can afford the luxuries you take for granted. Even getting fed means you must work from cradle to grave.

 

Not when you're monumentally preposterously wrong.

60 years ago it was because we WERE liberal that we accomplished those things. We remained liberal until the turn of the century, too. But in the 21stC we became that which we fought against 60 years ago. Intolerant bigots, who despise anyone who doesn't think exactly like ourselves.

 

I don't believe you can support that idea.

 

Look at it this way. If you say "there is an invisible force field stopping people from walking from point A to point B", and then someone just goes ahead and walks from point A to point B, your force field is proven non-existent. The claim that there are quantifiable EXTERNAL (ie, not personal choice) barriers to escaping poverty, is easily proven false by even a single example of people poor people escaping poverty. It means that the CONDITIONS EXIST to allow it, since it happened.

You aren't getting the results you want, because you live in a society in which it's possible to say "no thanks" to the hard work of education and still survive. We gave people the freedom to choose, and by god they are choosing. You really need to make peace with that very human response to largess. Trying to control for outcomes is the act of a totalitarian.

 

Oh yeah? Just test a Progressive on their tolerance of different ideas. Compare their tolerance to that of the bonafide liberals of the late 1960s.

 

No, it isn't. It can be, but doesn't have to be. The qualifier is whether it's a surplus (profit) driven enterprise, or a subsistence enterprise - and whether every member of the collective pulls their weight. If there are able bodied members sitting around doing nothing while others work, it's not socialist.

 

Pretty much nothing about a human population works like that.

There are plenty of ways to cause fewer people to do some task.

And, removing those barriers can make a real difference.

 

Perhaps you should cite an example of your idea here.