Elon Musk Gets OWNED On Twitter After Attacking Bernie Sanders

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  1. GrayMan

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    Chenk not my favorite, but he isn't wrong about Elon being a big time market manipulator.

    The Tesla bubble was further inflated by the lefts green energy obsession and people hoping to make a quick buck when the infrastructure and green energy subsidies get passed.
     
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    I never really understood peoples hate of Musk. Seems like a decent guy to me. Tesla, his space program. Sure he might be a bit eccentric but I've never viewed him as hate worthy.
     
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    How was he given 5 billion dollars? They’re saying he did but how? If you can’t say how then it never happened
     
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    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What has Bernie ever produced? Nothing.
     
  6. GrayMan

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    I think it's obvious that they will feel they have to rule in his favor. They may be scared to but hopefully him being a kid and them adults will help them find some courage. Problem is when you know these crazy leftist might go after your family.

    If any of these jurors receive threats of any kind, I hope the government comes down on them like a hammer on watermelon.
     
  7. Joe knows

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    A quote from your article

    “The figure compiled by The Times comprises a variety of government incentives, including grants, tax breaks, factory construction, discounted loans and environmental credits that Tesla can sell. It also includes tax credits and rebates to buyers of solar panels and electric cars.”

    To say the tax payer shoulders this burden is false. Taxpayers pay nothing in the companies tax breaks, tax credits, discounted loans, and environmental credits... That’s just a reduction in his paid taxes. It costs you and I literally no extra money to so called “shoulder”.

    The tax credits and rebates to buyers of solar panels and electric cars help the buyers not him and is admitted in the article as saying “buyers”. So why does that add to his tax burden?

    the factory construction definitely is an advantage to him. However that particular advantage creates a huge tax income from the products he provides. If you taxed him out of existence and take away his incentive to bring in that GDP increase then we would be short incoming revenue far more valuable than his so called fair share.

    on environmental credits it also is a bit tricky. Environmental regulations require companies that are not meeting emission standards to pay fines or buy credits generated by companies that comply with the rules. Tesla complied with the rules so they had those extra environmental credits to sell. That’s also not a burden on tax payers rather it was a burden on them that they overachieved at so was rewarded for.

    It’s easy to fall for your socialist crap if you don’t know what any of this means. You’re being a puppet to drive these businesses out of America and their tax generation will go with them.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Elon Musk is not exactly a posterchild for conservatives. It seems to me most of the hype he got, and most of the hype that led to his business growing, came from progressive news.
    Some businesses are based on actual business fundamentals, or some actual promising new idea that is backed by investment experts. His entire business was fueled more by hyped speculation and a popular media campaign. He's almost more of a business celebrity.
    The same people buying Bitcoin are the type of people buying stock in his company.
     
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    That’s not 100% accurate. His business SpaceX is not a public business but it’s estimated to be worth 10X the amount of Tesla. Tesla definitely had a helping hand from Liberal C02 news but SpaceX has nothing to do with that and all to do
    With capitalism.

    SpaceX is a modern day marvel. They are literally stomping their government competitors in the ground with innovative thinking such as reusable boosters. No government ever thought of this because government money is almost never used economically as we all know. They would rather shoot off millions of dollars in rocket boosters and let them Float away into space or crash into the ocean and never recover them from the unreachable depths they fall to.

    Musk knowing he could never compete with socialist and communist funded space programs in a conventional manner, knew he had to make a change in order to do it cheaper. He done this by making them reusable. You really should read his biography. It goes through all this and is quite impressive. Only the free market would demand a reusable rocket. The government could care less about throwing money into the deep blue abyss. Just another example that capitalism is absolutely always better than socialist or communist style programs.
     
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    Did the money for SpaceX come more from experienced traditional investors or small stock purchases from many individuals who are not normally investors and were acting on the news hype?
     
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    You can’t buy stock of SpaceX. It’s not a public company. Meaning the investors that have invested are most definitely large investments from People who have the investment experience to do so.
     
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    Here is an article about how to invest into SpaceX.

    Spoiler alert… You and I cant!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/spaceexplored.com/guides/spacex-stock/
     
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    True believers do I'm sure...
     
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    I'd be asking myself WHY Elon Musk needs any sort of loan from we the taxpayers

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    Elon Musk · Net worth
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    Got it Thx.

    Is it to soon to bring up this yet?

    The Feds Are Funding Fantasy EV Charging Stations (townhall.com)

    I mean he barrows half a billion and now we taxpayers are on the hook for 178 Billion now.... Damn if that aint a crappy deal? Well least he got a really nice rocket ship :)

     
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    He isn't just a creep, he is a loser. He has barely worked a day in his life before entering politics and becoming wealthy which is directly contrary to his agenda. He is a shining example of everything that is wrong with the progressive left. He is a leech. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    He is to expensive for my taste....
     
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    Bernie Sanders has never “owned” (or worked a day in his life) anyone in life his. Quite the opposite on the contrary. He’s been “owned” twice in Presidential runs. The fact that Joe beat him handily is utterly embarrassing.
     
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    He only founded x.com, one of the first internet payment systems, which was acquired by PayPal.

    He didn't do anything? haha
     
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    Funny, the author seems to be repeating the narrarive we heard about Tesla nearly a decade ago.
    “Federal “green” energy programs always lose, and go bankrupt”
    Tesla isn’t bankrupt and is doing very well.
     
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    The FEDs funding EV Charging stations doesn't help Elon Musk one bit since he builds and has built his own. This is a handout to the other carmakers and to Big Oil.

    Personally, I want the 15 trillion back for financing wars for oil.
     
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    No, this comment on space exploration is a ridiculous exaggeration.

    NASA has funded SpaceX it a major way, both with money and with technology.

    I'm seriously impressed with what he's done with rockets. But, to suggest that he built SpaceX without stupendous infusions of our taxes in the form of dollars and technology is just plain FALSE.
     
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    No, Tesla owners can use these charging stations, too.

    And, having more such stations reduces one of the big factors in customers being shy about electric cars.

    Amen on the oil. What we pay at the gas pump is a fraction of the cost of that gas - in lives and dollars.
     
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    Amen. In fact, every significant auto manufacturer is moving to electricity - from F150's to Porsche.

    There are just too many advantages, and manufacturers know that.
     
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