Elon Musk's Ego Threatens To Drive Twitter off a Cliff

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  1. DEFinning

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    So it is your hypothesis that being a successful, rich person, makes one incapable of making mistakes, or at least should cause anyone less successful to pretend they don't perceive these mistakes? As I've said to several others, please tell me what things I cited in the OP, as mistakes, do you, personally, not see this way?

    But wait, there may be a problem in that, since I cited articles by Bloomberg: are you as successful as Michael Bloomberg? Somehow, I highly doubt it. So how could you criticize his news service? Wouldn't you then be doing exactly what you imply that I am doing? Or are you as much a personal success as former Secretary of Labor and now highly successful author, Robert Reich, who broke down Musk's stupidity, in the OP's final snip? One would then have to wonder, if you know your own limitations.
     
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    my guess is he will outsource to India.... is he America first?
     
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    Has anyone said that besides Elon?
     
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    Actually he fired 90% of the India staff. Lot of the software development was done in India

    Good question. I don't know. Its a claim Musk is making.
     
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    I realize this will be a shock to you, but being born into wealth has got little to do with it. The excuse of not being gifted to wealth is the excuse for why a person shouldn't be expected to stand on their own feet.

    Musk started his first business with a loan of $26K from family. His family was affluent, not filthy rich; his father was an electro-mechanical engineer. Musk worked his way through college- and had about $100K in student loan debt. His first business did well and soon sold for millions. Then he started a company that evolved into- Paypal. Musk's "luck" is in the power of how he thinks.

    I started my first business with one paycheck from the job I quit, and an old pickup truck. Today after founding 8 businesses, the small one I still run has clientele all over the world. Started that business in my kitchen. No inheritance, no subsidies or benefit ever taken- not even an unemployment check. Success is possible for anyone, but it depends much more on what's in your head than what's in your pocket.

    You have the ability, nature gifted every living thing with all it needs to be a success. That doesn't mean you know how to find or use what you have, a problem almost totally limited to the human species.
    However if you don't try, if you don't believe in yourself, you will never find it. So long as you blame others for having more... you won't look inside to find what you have. Most people don't- which is why great success does not come to most people.
     
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    thanks, had not heard that, good for Musk if true, hope other American companies follow that lead - as long as he hires Americans and not rehires from India
     
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    As explained in my OP-- god, has reading suddenly gone out of fashion?-- there is 1) no verification of this, other than Elon's tweet. But 2) since Apple has a policy that applies to ALL apps, in the app store, about being protected from harmful content, and since Musk has just so depleted the ranks of those who do this, at Twitter, the journalist who I'd cited, who specializes in this area, postulated the high likelihood that Apple had sent Twitter a boiler plate notice, as they have done with other apps on their platform, informing them that, if corrective measures were not taken, they would risk being "booted off," the App Store. What would one find in that, to criticize? Apple's pre-existing policy, cannot apply to Musk's Twitter, without meaning that Apple is against free speech? Get real.
     
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    No, there are plenty of people just as smart as Elon. Being born into wealth makes success much easier.

    His family owned an emerald mine.
     
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    ""my guess is"" ""i suspect"" says it all.
     
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    You should probably read the article, as your impression is horribly off. Musk is not hiring Americans, in lieu of Indians; these were not customer service reps, which Americans talk to, when they call with a complaint. These were engineers and others involved in "product," for the Indian market. IOW, it takes people who understand that culture, to do that work, to help Twitter expand into that market, especially as my snip also mentions of India:



     
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    He fired over 3000 Americans as well, so that's not a big favor for anyone, but its his company so its for him to do as he likes.

    Only 18% of Twitter users are in US, and India was a big market, and now its no longer supported. Part of his grand plan? Could be.
     
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    I don't think anyone, least of all me, is suggesting that Musk cannot do whatever he likes, over at Twitter; I have not used that platform in years, so I really could not care less. It is, however, a major information sharing site, so Musk's taking it over, is a notable news event. All indications, thus far, is that he really has no clue, as to what he's doing, in starting off by eliminating the most valuable asset which he paid the $44 billion, to acquire: the expertise of Twitter's staff. I strongly suggest you read the very short article, written be Robert Reich (fmr. Sec'y of Labor) for The Guardian, which is the last link, in my OP.


    Edit: even for the richest man in the world, $44 billion is not playing around money. If Twitter was to not be profitable, it could conceivably eat up a good part, or even all, of his fortune.
     
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    I'm sure Musk would love to have your business knowledge but I guess he's on his own with this endeavor. Maybe one day he will find success.
     
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    we will see, all we can do is guess for now... unless you were hired by Musk to speak for him? if not, then guessing is all we got right now
     
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    Tldr, no point in making such a long argument when the active user numbers is an all time high. The advertisers will adjust. A few will be lost but most will come back that already left in the uncertainty.
     
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    don't care, as long as we are reducing foreign outsourcing, it's a good thing

    right now too many jobs are going overseas, if that were at reasonable levels, I would not care
     
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    Elon hasn't ran a company that didn't depend on government subsidies in a while.
     
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    Did I claim to be an expert in running that, or any business?

    Again, if you can motivate yourself for what apparently is the great difficulty to you, of
    reading an OP, you will see that it is not merely my opinion: I am quoting many sources, including the business site Bloomberg News, if you have ever heard of it. Another article was written by our former Secretary of Labor.

    While I doubt that you do, you really should wish that you had some of my abilities of understanding information, particularly, in your case, information that is written.
     
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    A lot of conservative and moderates have been given a voice once again. Even more dangerous than Trump. The moderates are the most dangerous because it shows how radical their agenda was.
     
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    Your comment is nonsensical, but I have already tried as much as I am willing, to explain why it does not fit the circumstances.
     
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    I've been on twitter constantly, i haven't noticed a difference really. There were tons or right wing people talking nonsense on twitter before Elon took over.
     
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    You fear opposing views and think that labeling them dangerous helps. It doesn't. Although it has been amusing to watch the meltdown from the lefties knowing the conservatives will no longer be censored on Twitter.
     
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    You literally started a thread about it. Maybe send him an email.
     

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