Nope they soared after they went into effect in fact they speeded up their transition just so they would. The reason we went from a surplus to a deficit is not hard to understand, the recession, the dot.com bust and 9/11. - - - Updated - - - ROFL recessions cause debt when a Democrat is President but not so when a Republican is............gotcha.
Only Bluesguy has the chuptza to say these are "soaring" revenues: Year - Revenues 2000 2,025.2 2001 1,991.2 2002 1,853.2 2003 1,782.3 You don't "got" me at all.
Bush was bad but he is gone and Obama is the monster we have now.. But yes Obama is worse than Bush, he made it illegal to be alive in this country without purchasing a private service. He is a fascist pig and doing everything he can to bring "fundamental change to America". Well he has and we are less free because of it. Obama says borrowing money from China and running up the debt is unpatriotic then turns around runs it up another $7 trillion so far. We have 92 million people out of work but the unemployment rate is only 6.7%, bull (*)(*)(*)(*). More people on welfare and food stamps but I know according to the left its all Bush and the republicans. Let's not forget all the lies he told the American people about Obamacare. Didn't he say he'd close Guantanamo Bay? What about all the people he's killed with drone strikes? His support of Islamic radicals, he killed Gadhafi for them and wanted to kill Assad. I'm not dumb enough to believe the guy pissing on my head when he tells me it's only raining. [video=youtube_share;DyLmru6no4U]http://youtu.be/DyLmru6no4U[/video] I know the left doesn't like to be held accountable that's why you guys complain about internet videos, like the post you linked to.
You are the one who made the claim that Obama was one of the worst presidents of all time. Having made that comparative statement, it is certain fair game for me to compare him to his predecessor. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Wake me up when Obama has squandered a surplus budget, got us into two unnecessary wars of occupation, and ended his term with a negative private sector job creation number. IMO borrowing lots of money when the economy is doing well is wrong. Obama however inherited the worst recession in 80 years. We needed to run deficits. It's just too bad we had irresponsible leaders who ran up trillions of debt during good economies before we had to deal with the GR. I complain about internet videos because too many people substitute them for full and objective facts. It's part of the TV/internet generation, I guess. Why read and research when you can get everything from a 30 second RW internet video, right?
Only a partisan would deny it. So what, the economy and recovery Clinton inherited was stronger than predicted, yet his tax increase slowed it as he later admitted. We all know the 1990's had good economic times, would have been better were it not for Clinton but Gingrich and Kaisch got it back on track and we ended up with surplus budgets. >>>Flamebait Removed<<< >>>Flamebait Removed<<< I am under no obligation to keep repeating myself, when you can refute the fact there was a recession, the dot.com bubble bursting and 9/11 let me know. It is fact as we saw when Clinton's tax rate increase rather that INCREASEING the rate of growth of revenues SLOWED the rate of growth and then the Gingrich/Kasich tax rate cut INCREASED the growth of revenue as did the Bush tax rate cut once fully in effect and the recession over. Mixing data again I see Capital gains revenues 1986 - $53B @ 20% 1987 - $34B @ 28% 1990 - $28B 1991 - $25B @ 28.93% Recovery kicks and 5 years later 1996 - $66B @ 29.19% rate is 46% higher than 1986 revenues just 25% higher 1998 - $89B @ 21% after Gingrich/Kasich tax rate cut. Rate is 28% lower and revenues 35% higher 2000 - $127B revenue now 92% higher 2007 - $137B revenue now 108% higher Only a partisan would claim a recession and dot.com bust and 9/11 weren't. Well which is it you support government stimulus or you don't, or is it you support it when a Democrat does but not a Republican? Because of an incompititent Senate leader and President, it's called negotiation. When the Democrats control the Senate and the White House. Sure have you? What's your point? No history and my civics lesson. Waht is your point. He was in office in 1997, his Senate office where he voted against the budget that produced that paltry deficit. Then he supported and voted for the 2008 one that raised it to $400 billion and then he supported and voted for and SIGNED INTO LAW the one that raised it to $1,400B. You mean the budget that was passed and signed into law when he was governor of Texas? And the one Clinton left him................. So Presidents cause recessions?
In my opinion Obama is the 2nd worst President of all time. I consider James Buchanan to be the worst. Do you here me defending Bush's big spending? No child left behind, Medicare part d? Nope. But at the end of the day Obama was the President when government gained the power to force private citizens to do basically anything it wants. According to economist the recession ended in 2009 but we've continued $1trillion deficits until last year. I agree it's a shame we haven't had fiscally responsible leaders since the Clinton years. The Obama administration has claimed countless times the economy is better but want to expand unemployment, food stamps and welfare. Why? 92 million people out of the job market, worst labor participation in 30 years. Go ahead and ignore all that because your guy is in the Whitehouse. Why not address the problems instead of deny, deflect and blame Bush? I bet if the next president is republican, they don't make it 3 days before the media starts blaming all the woes cause by Obama and his neo-Marxist policies on them. Why not use videos, when you can see and hear the lies coming out a person's mouth, to me that's better than reading about them. [[video=youtube_share;iGAdrQ2RpdM]http://youtu.be/iGAdrQ2RpdM[/video]
Here's one more video of Obama lies [video=youtube_share;kg9m1F8B2_c]http://youtu.be/kg9m1F8B2_c[/video]
I didn't claim you defended Bush anything. But you invited comparison to him with your opinion that Obama was one of the worst of all time. The Govt has always had power to make you do things you don't want. Ask hundreds of thousands who were involuntarily drafted to Vietnam whether they'd rather have to have health insurance or be forced to fight in the jungles in Vietnam.
I get it you'll never consider neo-Marxist democrats or Obama responsible for anything. Good luck with that.
Responsible for the GR he inherited? You're right, you'll never get me to consider him responsible for that.
Did I blame him for the recession? How can you have a great recession without it being a depression? That's just more neo-Marxist double speak. But you win Obama can do no wrong, how foolish of me to actually blame the man for laying the ground work for government controlled health care and a jobless recovery his policies have created.
Why not cut some of the biggest bloat and expense...the government itself. there's more than one way to pay a bill...make more money, OR cut the expenses. Gubmint is too big and bloated as it is...overall.
You have a severe recession, the worst in 80 years, that is not at depression levels, like we've just had. Did I say Obama could do no wrong? I think Obama has been wrong on a number of things. He should have gotten out of Afghanistan faster. He should have repealed the Bush cuts completely. He should have cut back on the Patriot Act. He should have increased spending over the past four years. He should be more effective at selling his programs. He should have passed a single payor health care system. He should have enacted some job creating programs over the past couple of year. He should have gotten better people for the website. He should have eliminated the special low investment tax rates the so far the uber rich. He should cut military spending, make Medicare and SS means tested, reduce FICA tax rates on middle class and poorer workers, and eliminate the income cap on SS taxes and levy them on all income. He should give unions more power to represent retail and service workers, expand OT wage laws, and increase the minimum wage. LOL, you accuse me about partisanship on Obama and then make a statement like "a jobless recovery his policies have created." With you Obama can do no right.
It's been suggested before, but the leeches screech it's against their constitutional rights. - - - Updated - - - Which is incorrect. Those who say it is a disaster agree there needs to be help, but it needs to be paid for by a cut somewhere else. The point is, it is a mess, but we can't keep on the same track of upping deficits and borrowing more and more and more.
But I thought it was these evil, greedy rich who were keeping everyone down? Why would they invest like that, and create new technologies, and new jobs? That goes against their greedy, evil ways.
To quote Bluesguy: "The last time the Republicans controlled the Congress after the 2001 recession the deficits were MARKEDLY lowered down to a paltry $161B by 2007 by restraining spending growth, even if you add in another $80B per year for the war that is 1/3 to a 1/4 of the deficits now."
Appears so. He's making it worse in a number of ways. Continue the unemployment check, you encourage that person to stay unemployed rather than face that he may have to realize a career setback. Example: Housing market crashed. Washington did what they could to prop up prices. When that didn't work, prices fell. When they fell to an equilibrium price, people started buying them again. In this lousy economy, people may have to accept wage cuts, which would make them again employable which might cut unemployment and get America working again. And working American's are dangerous. They don't have to accept everything Government feeds them. Another problem is many people, with unemployment, have a reduced motivation to look at the people wrecking the economy and do something about it.
It's typical left. Waaaaaaa...the repubs won't compromise...waaaa...the country is being held hostage by the repubs....waaaa...Bush....waaaaaa.... So when the repubs tell'em fine, you can have your extension, but find something to cut to pay for it, what do they do? More whining and crying... Has it been outright said no cuts to the war on drugs? No? Well then, maybe one of those dems needs to suggest it? Maybe the dems need to make some offers on things to cut? The ball's in their court, but instead of playing, they sit back and whine. the opportunity is there, they just choose to ignore it for politics and rhetoric. - - - Updated - - - What a joke...20-40 would "cut into time looking for a job"??? Do you honestly think they're out there 20+ hours a week looking for a job?
Because in their mind being a soldier is not hard work and isn't worth the benefits or pay they get. I mean come on, Kanye West's job is more dangerous than a soldier's in a combat zone...just ask him.
Weren't you guys the ones scoffing that the illegals are coming here to take the jobs Americans don't want, now all of a sudden it's the Americans that want them? Make up your mind. If we leave it up to you turds, we'll forever be losing money in our pocket to keep paying for more and more moochers. The only reason dems still exist is because they've learned to buy votes with government dangled carrots paid for out of the producer's pockets. Other than that, just more of the typical, same old, same old lefty whining and crying because someone earned something they didn't...waaa....the rich...waaaa..... - - - Updated - - - Or maybe pick up the trash and clean up the graffiti and filth they've polluted their own neighborhoods with...
