Empathy and conservatism

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by kilgram, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    But if it doesn't owe him anything, then it doesn't owe the wealthy anything, either, does it?
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    you are correct, sir.
     
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    Well, it's obviously working well for you. That isn't the case with many. I know, I know...it's all "their fault". It worked for you, so it must work for everybody, right?

    It hasn't failed for you yet, is what you mean.
     
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    If nobody owes anybody anything, then why were we forced to bail out Wall street?
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    I can't be any more clear. Big government has failed all of us. capitalism has not failed anyone.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Good question. Ask big government.
     
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    Haha. Well when the Supreme Court decided to turn elections into a giant bribe game, I don't really know what they were thinking. It's quite strange actually. All sides of the political aisle say that politicians are beholden to special interest groups. I believe many of our problems could be fixed by simply forcing all candidates to accept public financing at equal levels, and then leaving it to the politicians to convince the voters with rational arguments.

    This wouldn't fix stupid voters, but it would at least make the politicians less responsive to being bribed and more responsive to populations as a whole.
     
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    I can't believe how bad the OP has embarrassed himself.
     
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    First of all, who the (*)(*)(*)(*) elected you to speak for all leftist?

    The fact is there are plenty liberals who donate their time and money for charitable acts.

    Next, it's hilarious how you try to imply that conservatives are some how heartless, and yet it's a well known fact that conservatives give more time and money to charity.

    Then you come up with your idiotic notion that some how charity is bad. What a crock of (*)(*)(*)(*). People who do charitable act are doing a hell of allot more to help out their fellow man than you. All you're doing is spouting off idiocy on an internet forum.

    I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what one's motivation is to do charity, because the end result is that somebody that needs help is getting it from somebody who voluntarily gave it to them. And, in the end that's a net result, compared to your fantasyland pipe dream politics that the vast majority of sane people view as idiotic.

    So to sum it up so you can understand, people who do charitable acts, help people. People like you don't do (*)(*)(*)(*), but run your mouthes.
     
  10. Daybreaker

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    And they will direct your question to their masters on Wall Street. Actually, they'll probably throw themselves on that question grenade for Wall Street, same as they do with everything else.

    The government isn't the problem. The government is just a tool that Wall Street is abusing.
     
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    Capitalism certainly seems to have failed everyone, so much that big government has started to look like a better alternative.
     
  12. Sooner28

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    Conservatives/libertarians give more to charity, but then they vote for the interests of the rich. They think businesses should be free to pollute as much as they wish, there should no minimum wage, regulations that require a safe workplace should be eliminated, and the like. So my thinking on this is well yeah conservatives may give more to charity, but they vote for the politicians that cause the conditions that requires charity to be needed in the abundance it does right now. Campaigning against universal health care while saying you donate money to the Salvation Army just makes me confused. Telling a person they don't have a right to health care when they are sick and then donating money to a charity so they can buy cheap clothes and food is just odd. Martin Luther King Jr. said it best, "Philanthropy is commendable, but it must not cause the philanthropist to overlook the circumstances of economic injustice which make philanthropy necessary."
     
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    What have you been smoking? Conservatives support "the rich" (whoever that is) who think businesses should be free to pollute as much as they wish? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Minimum wage increases unemployment. Yeah, let's increase minimum wage so more people are out of work. That's very compassionate of you.

    Campaigning against universal healthcare is pro-liberty. You don't like freedom? What the hell are you doing in America?

    :fart:
     
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    To this point in human history, there is no way to have uncorrupted state. State is only as noble as the men and women who make up the state, and such power leads to the inevitable of sacrificing one's morals for financial gain.

    Corruption of man is as ingrained today as in his beginnings.
    The only way to curb corruption that serves to empower those with more, is to shrink the state to a level to which the goal of corrupting said state would not be worth one's time.

    It is not capitalism you hate deep down. It is the system set up to keep the top the top, and the bottom the bottom. That outcome was never the goal of capitalism, and that outcome is protected by the large state, whose power you wish to broaden.
     
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    Yet another smoker of :weed:.
     
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    So you support regulations to curb carbon dioxide and other pollutants that cause heart disease, cancer,asthma, and are destroying our enviroment. Good I am glad I was wrong on that.

    Citation please.

    Liberty to what? To die because you can't afford the medical care you need? To go bankrupt because you can't afford to pay your bills? I'm glad you think my uncle should have died since he was on Medicare at the end of his life and required extensive treatment for his diabetes, failing heart, and kidneys. I guess you mean liberty to die if you are poor.
     
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    When the government acts unconstitutionally I'm afraid the blame is on government.

    One way to greatly reduce the abuse by wall street would be to repeal their money monopoly- end the fed and eliminate taxes on the exchange of gold and silver.
     
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    That's only if your eyes are closed to the abuse and mistakes of big government.
     
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    There are several misconceptions and failed assumptions in the statement above.
     
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    Please stop insulting weed smokers. My guess is these guys probably need to smoke more.
     
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    The straw that broke the unicorn's back.
     
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    I support sound science, not junk science like you and Al Gore believe in.

    The fact that minimum wage laws increase unemployment has been known for years now. Even the Democrats had to admit that. That's why they've changed it to 'living wage'. You want a citation? Just do a google search for 'minimum wage laws increase unemployment'. Take your pick.

    You obviously have no idea what liberty is based on what you posted in your little rant. I've seen this argument before and it sickens me that people could be so off-base. You've got much to learn, grasshopper.
     
  23. kilgram

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    Suppossing that true. You should ask why. And workers must work for the wage that the employer consider and with slave-wage and infrahuman conditions?
     
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    Ask the recipients! These are the same blowhards that cry about entitlements.
    How bout they bail us all out now? I'm asking big business because big business OWNS the guv. Don't point to somebody else when your capitalist crowd gladly sticks their hands out and takes....the SOCIALISTS.
     
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    Are you glad you voted for Obama? :mrgreen:
     

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