Epic Fail: Rachel Maddow Mocked After Dragging Out Trump Tax ‘Scoop’

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't see ANYTHING odd about someone willing to "give" their money away ? If you are a billionaire you would give away $100 million dollars with no return ?
     
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    So Trump lied about not being able to release his tax returns?
     
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    No, Hillary Clinton took $25 million from Saudi Arabia when she was a US Senator and she took money from Morocco and from Qatar when she was Sec. of State. That is criminal and she should have been fired for it. That is "pay for play".
    Private citizen and a businessman... doing business. Yea, nothing to see here.

    LOL
     
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    It's much too late for goodbyes. The interlulz are aflame with memes and jokes. She's a laughingstock. I wonder if MSNBC will fire her.
     
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    Lots of billionaires have. Jon Huntsman Sr. did. RK Rowlings did. Paul Newman dedicated an entire organization and business dedicated to giving money to charity.

    Paul Allen has given away around $2 billion, as I recall. :)

    Not everyone is like Hillary Clinton.
     
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    are you smoking pot? that's a serious question.
    Hillary as Secretary of State, and Trump as a private citizen 9 years before he enters public service.

    And I lose credibility?
    LOLOLOL

    You people are becoming clowns of the forum, only thing missing is the bed red floppy shoes
     
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    I'm not sure where you live but it's not uncommon for people with money to burn to buy and demolish, I've seen it in Dallas when I was there.

    In Beverly Hills, the real estate ethos is 'buy and demolish'

    In most places, an 8,100-square-foot house with five bedrooms, six baths and a swimming pool that had been remodeled by a master architect would be considered the height of luxury.

    And if Ira Gershwin had penned lyrics for such standards as "The Man That Got Away" during the decades he lived there, all the better.

    Not so much in Beverly Hills, a city of stratospherically priced property, where many residents prefer to build their castles from scratch — and have the scratch to build exactly what they want.

    The recent demolition of a North Roxbury Drive residence where Gershwin lived, wrote and entertained Hollywood royalty is just the latest example of how difficult it can be to preserve the past in a city where residents are accustomed to doing as they wish.

    *

    The tear-down phenomenon is hardly new. Beverly Hills residents have for decades razed houses that earlier generations considered grand to make way for more lavish residences, many of them stucco-and-glass boxes with the vague aura of Italian villas.


    Boston...

    Newton’s big teardown: As demolitions increase, some areas impacted more than others

    The average purchase price of the original homes was around $770,000. The average selling price of the new homes was $1.95 million.

    http://newton.wickedlocal.com/news/...increase-some-areas-impacted-more-than-others


    Darien, Conn

    Multimillion-Dollar Homes Face the Wrecking Ball

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/multimillion-dollar-homes-face-the-wrecking-ball-1449758002

     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, that money was paid to the Clinton Foundation, and when the Clinton Foundation was vetted, hmmmm, NOTHING found. Nothing criminal......and I can prove that....after what, 20 different "investigations" nothing has been found.......now please tell me how you know this about Trump, while you defend "nothing to see here" ?


    And you know there is nothing to see here how ? You loose credibility when you hold different standards. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about business knows that their is always a quid-pro-quo. People don't get that rich by giving away their money for nothing in return.

    This is what amazes me about the right. You know nothing about Trump and his business, nor his finances, and every time anyone asks you claim him innocent, with nothing to base that finding on. Yet Clinton release 30 years of taxes, has had a microscope on her since the 90's and nothing criminal found....yet shes "Crooked".

    Answer one simple question. If the same accusation was leveled at Hillary, would you still defend her, or would you want it investigated.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any proof that she gained personally form the money......

    Go ahead...I'll wait....

    And I never denied Trump was a private citizen. But you dont find anything fishy about that type of deal, and the accusations that the russians helped Trump win the Election ?
     
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    That is pay for play. She was profiting directly from foreign countries she was in contact with. As well as companies. The Clinton Foundation is still under investigation, by the way.

    She is about as corrupt a politician as there ever was. Sad that someone like you attempts to defend her.

    He was a private citizen and most people can accurately document his career and business dealings anyway. He has been in and out of the news for decades.

    She is crooked and it has been proven over and over and over again. She is a sorry excuse for a human being and she should be serving jail time.
     
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    Chickened out of what? IF it was a crime for the media to publish tax returns it would be a crime if it was 2 pages of 22.
     
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    Wait no longer:

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795284806510714881?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    and:

    http://www.npr.org/2016/10/27/49960...-shows-links-between-foundation-personal-cash

    Wow, she must just HATE WikiLeaks..... By the way, they are 100% accurate.

    I could find a lot more if I choose to.....

    When Hillary Clinton agreed to be Secretary of State during President Obama's first term, she promised her distance from the Clinton Foundation. The foundation also agreed to limit foreign donations.

    Both agreements were for good reasons. Foreign officials and governments were big donors to the Clintons' family foundation, and there were concerns in the Obama administration about conflicts of interest between the foundation and Hillary Clinton's work at Secretary of State.

    But over the past year, evidence has emerged that both Clinton and the foundation failed to live up to those promises. Clinton and her top officials continued to have a cozy relationship with the foundation throughout her tenure at State, and evidence strongly suggest that Clinton was granting access and favors to major Clinton Foundation donors.

    In addition, the Clinton Foundation accepted millions of donations from foreign governments while Hillary was at State, including one that violated an ethics agreement it had with the Obama administration.

    The story came to light after the release of a groundbreaking book by Peter Schweizer — called "Clinton Cash" — which uncovered a serious of State Department decisions that appeared to favor big Clinton Foundation donors.

    Emails that emerged more recently made it clear that donors received special access and attention from Clinton and her top aides. An AP story found that more than half the private visitors Clinton received at State were donors to her family foundation.

    ^^ That cannot be good at all. But because she is Hillary Clinton, she is above the law. Just like Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder. Sad truth in American politics.
     
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    This won't answer any of your questions! She is the mad cow. Okay, it answered the question. :alcoholic:
     
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    The problem is what did Trump owe the Russian oligarch for in order fir the the Russian oligarch who is tied in with Putin as all Russian oligarchs are. Do you think that the Russian oligarch overpaid for that property because he us stupid? Do you not see that every timevwe turn we find another connection with Russians. So are you Trumpeizdas convinced yet that Trump is owned by Putin and the Russians or do you still have your heads buried in sand.
     
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    Your head is certainly buried somewhere and that isn't sand.

    What a total conspiracy theory you have concocted. Maybe we can get Trump in on the Kennedy assassination as well. Maybe Trump's Father is really a KGB agent and he set this deal up from the get go, knowing full well the vast importance of this deal in relation to his sons Presidency.

    You should run with all this and see where it goes.
     
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    When and who investigated the CF? I may have missed it, so appreciate the info, if you know.

    But in regards to the CF, Hillary could have helped herself out by folding it, given the accusations of pay to play, but instead of doing that this billion dollar charity organization simply was to get a new head, their daughter. So, it would have been in place if she had won. But for some reason, once she lost the race, we find out it folded. This looks suspicious. Of course much of her campaign people were also part of that CF. But suspicion is not evidence. So, I am interested in the investigation you mentioned being done. Of course even if an investigation had been done, it is almost impossible to prove pay to play, and you understand this, right? Plausible deniability, along with the fact those both Clintons are lawyers, and understand how to run things so pay to play would be even harder to prove. Of course, if it happened, the NSA would have the goods, the conversations which would show it. Getting those might be difficult, unless there was an all out investigation, and after we saw that Comey basically let her go, attributing her criminality to being "unsophisticated" or, just another old person who did not understand cyber security and her signing the copy of the rules before taking office.

    Now that I think about it, this old brain remembers that there was an attempt to investigate the CF, but Lynch stopped it. Then, supposedly, there was still some investigation going on by the same dude trump fired, when he would not resign, in southern new York. So, I think you may be wrong on the CF ever being investigated. Lynch would not allow it, would not sign off on it. The same Lynch who should have been lynched, for meeting with bill cliinton on the tarmac, to discuss grandchildren. ha ha ha.

    Now that I think about it, I have a suspicion there were two reason for folding the billion dollar plus CF once Hillary lost the presidency. One, she would no longer be in the position to do pay to play, and two, a folded foundation is harder to investigate, which might have happened under the new GOP AG, Sessions. But suspicion is not evidence, but this does a smell about it that is fertile ground for suspicion. The appearance of this deal looks like some dirty dealing went on, and would continue to go on, if she was in office, which would give shade to the CF. Even with her daughter running it, which means friends of bill and Hillary would be probably doing the actual running of it, with their daughter the figurehead. I am conjecturing, and not claiming suspicion is evidence the way the trump haters do. Intellectual honesty and integrity is of the upmost importance, if people are serious, instead of trying to run a con game on marks. Which clearly we have seen with MSM and Hillary supporters when it comes to pres. trump.
     
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    Again, suspicion is not evidence, right? This Russian trump conspiracy meme lacks any evidence at all. And given this sale happened 9 years ago, with trump not being a politician, to try to tie that sale with collusion between trump and putin is as Greenwald said...CRAZY. Who knows why the Russian gave trump his asking price? 9 years ago? There are reasonable reasons without trying to tie it in with the trump/putin conspiracy theory. So it is quite a desperate stretch, IMO.

    Wonder why MSM went into blackout once the story broke in the UK, with ambassador murray, who by the way is the same guy who lost his job as ambassador because he busted out America using the nation he was ambassador to, for torture. My suspicion is, given the MSM blackout of murray, who said it was not Russia but an insider who leaked to wilkileaks, is that this Russian narrative is a ruse, which would cause this conspiracy theory to fall like a house of cards. Showing us the ruse, the lies, and then the dems and others would have NOTHING to beat the drum about in regards to trump and putin. MSM did not even try to investigate what murray claimed, would not talk to the man, and went into total blackout. Now, if anyone should be suspicious this should raise red flags like crazy. For it is one helluva story for MSM. So, why the blackout? Murray even won an award for his integrity. But murray may as well have never been born. He does not exist. This is the real conspiracy here, IMO. What the MSM will not touch, is more important than what they will touch.

    Of course, the murray revelation is something you and others must ignore, for it would tumble down this house of cards build by dems and MSM. But it would also reveal corruption of the deep state. For playing along with the ruse. And that would be devastating news for this republic, in the same way the Princeton Study was, which didn't get coverage in MSM either. It looks like anything that reveals our reality, is blacked out of MSM, and left to the tin foil hat sites to cover. Clever? Yes, in a post Orwellian 1984 world. No wonder the sales for this book has increased exponentially.
     
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    MSNBC isn't talking about Trump's taxes anymore. They lost on that issue.

    They're working on the next phony anti-Trump issue.
     
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    First off, I am not defending her. Im NOT a Hillary fan, but I am a realist. I'm just stating facts

    Hillary has been investigated more than 20 times, and 15 of them were congressional investigations run by Republicans. Nothing found that was illegal. Yet you still repeat "she is about as corrupt a politician as there ever was", and you say it with no proof. And to the contrary, she has been found innocent every time ! Thats not defending her, thats just a fact.

    She was not profiting directly from foreign countries. Thats just a right wing talking point. The Clinton Foundation has been investigated, the same as Hillary directly, ad nauseam, and nothing is ever found. Show me the proof and Ill stand right behind you with my pitchfork.



    Yes, he was a private citizen. But he is the President now. If he was beholden to them as a Private Citizen, he may be even more beholden to them now. Im not saying he is, Im saying their is enough for an investigation. If this same scenario were played out on the Clintons, you would be in the line with your pitchforks demanding an investigation. To say you wouldn't is disingenuous. I would be calling for an investigation of Hillary if this was her !!!!!

    Again with the right wing talking point. It has NOT been proven over and over. In fact, it has been prove to the contrary. How many investigations have to find her innocent before you say she is innocent ?
     
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    Comey outlined an open and shut legal case against Hillary. It was a slam dunk. Then he said he wasn't going to prosecute and jaws dropped on every legal expert across America.
     
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    What a total crock of crap. How can you even write such trash? Clinton is just plain above the law and she should have been indicted. using an unauthorized email server from her home to pass classified information, taking cash while holding public office, smashing her cell phones with a hammer and withholding laptops and other gear from the FBI.

    She is as crooked as they come.

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/above-the-law-hillarys-huge-scandal-list-explodes-to-25/


    He was a private citizen conducting business deals. There is no story there. Bring something with merit to the table, like accepting cash while being Secretary of State or rigging the primaries or using the Attorney General to protect you form going to jail.
     
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    I do not give two mosquito farts for what the MSM has to say. The fact that the deal with the Russian oligarch may have happened 7 or 8 years ago does not in any way proove that that Trump didn't have a Russian connection. As a matter of fact it actually does the opposite in proving that trump has had a Russian connection for a long time.

    There is evidence that Trump had connections with Russian oligarch money in fact his son admitted it.

    Paul Manafort was obviously connected with the Russians who were the real "clients" when Manafort was playing footsies with the Ukrainian traitor and pro Russian scum Turd Yanukovich.

    Do you actually believe that Trump was saying nice things about Putin just for the hell of it? How about a Trump lying about not knowing Putin after he bragged about meeting the KGB Turd during the beauty contests in Moscow.

    How about Trump taking the arms for Ukraine plank out of the GOP platform. Do you want to try and convince me that Cheeto did that for no reason.

    There are just too many dots out there that point to Trump having a connection with Russian oligarch money. It is no secret that the only Russian oligarchs left who are not friends of Putin or one of Putin's dogs.
     
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    Of course any truth that is damaging to Trump you Trumpeizdas will call call it fake.
     
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    This news was damaging to Rachel. Perhaps fatal.
     
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    Is that like Obama being beholding to the Mad Bomber Bill Ayers? Where was all the investigation into Obama's prior contacts?
     

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