Erasing U.S. History Update: Richmond (VA) School Board to rename George Mason Elementary School

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
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    What I can't figure out, after the FBI declassified the files on Martin Luther King a couple of years ago, why weren't any statues or monuments honoring MLK toppled or why hasn't any streets or schools named after MLK been changed ?

    MLK was a useful idiot of the Kremlin and CPUSA pulled the strings on the MLK puppet.

    https://vault.fbi.gov/Martin Luther King, Jr./Martin Luther King, Jr. Part 1 of 2/view

    https://vault.fbi.gov/Martin Luther King, Jr./Martin Luther King, Jr. Part 2 of 2/view
     
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    I never heard of of George Mason before reading this thread, but after reading about him: He was a founding father and his name doesn't deserve to be changed at an American school.

    They could do like New York and just call it "PS 165" or something (The original Communist model), but man, this guy made the country what it is. Highly disrespectful to remove him. The man is a part of Virginia history, good history.

    Are we America or ISIS here?
     
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    Not that I’m aware of
     
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    So?

    Your idea of an ON-Topic Post (in a thread about VA. and George Mason) is Threadjacking the Topic to empty out your "Shade MLK" Copypasta File?:bored:

    Anyway, actually ON-Topic:

    The School Board is (clearly) within their rights, and any "protests" are RW Smowflakery. :flagus:
     
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    MLK had his faults. Just a man, but he was also a very brave very great American hero.

    History:

     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure you know why, but things might get a lot more complicated after the FBI audiotapes mentioned in this report are released in a few years:

    The troubling legacy of Martin Luther King
    Newly-revealed FBI documents portray the great civil rights leader as a sexual libertine who ‘laughed’ as a forcible rape took place
    David J. Garrow
    30/05/2019
    https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/june-2019/the-troubling-legacy-of-martin-luther-king/


    A Reckoning with Martin Luther King
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-reckoning-with-martin-luther-king-11560813491
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need someone to spell it out for you? Would you like them to tie your shoe laces and chew your food for you, too?

    His post is relevant to my thread, so if you dont' get it that's your problem.

    Actually it was YOU who was Off-Topic, but anyway...

    The snowflakes on the School Board are clearly within their rights to be snowflakes and run to the safe space of historical negationism, and the LW snowflakes who can't handle the criticism are within their rights to be snowflakes, too.
     
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    That speech as were all of his speeches were first reviewed and then signed off by CPUSA who got their marching orders from the Kremlin.

    Bernie Sanders old radical organization he use to run around with, Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee was a splinter group of CPUSA.

    It was the SNCCC who contacted the SDS in 1965 and suggested that by bringing the anti draft movement under the same umbrella as the anti Vietnam War movement that the protest would be even bigger.

    FYI:
    The anti war movement was never about ending the Vietnam War but was against the United States and the Saigon government winning the war.

    What we are starting to uncover that the civil rights movement in America that began in 1960 was initiated from the Kremlin. This is when community organizers and agitators started showing up in America's black neighborhoods agitating causing trouble and dividing society by playing the race card.

    The once vibrant black business districts like on Lennox Avenue in Harlem or South Central Avenue in Los Angeles would be no more. Instead riots, looting, arson, poverty, drugs, welfare and black on black crime.

     
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    Last November someone vandalized a mural honoring the Black Panthers on Crenshaw Blvd in South L.A.

    A young black activist lady (to young to have been around during the counter cultural movement) was yelling that someone was trying to erase "our" history !!!

    I told the young lady she was correct and the Black Panthers are part of black Americans history and America's history.

    I myself know exactly who the Panthers were, Marxist and murders.

    Then I asked her about the American Taliban who are trying erase America's history of toppling Confederate war memorials of Confederate soldiers who were also American war heroes before the American Civil War ?

    She went into a deep thought mode and I didn't stick around to hear her response.

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    According to the San Diego Tribune, the vandalism was discovered on Thursday morning with Los Angeles police taking a report of the incident just before noon.

    The mural, titled “Our Mighty Contribution,” is located near the intersection of Crenshaw Boulevard and 48th Street and shows several African American icons, including Martin Luther King Jr, Harriet Tubman, and several members of the Black Panthers holding guns. The incident is being investigated as a possible hate crime, and officers are looking for witnesses and to see if there is any surveillance footage available....
    https://www.essence.com/news/renowned-black-panther-mural-in-crenshaw-calif-defaced-with-swastikas/
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might be interested in reading this article that Christopher Hitchens wrote about the individuals and groups involved in the "anti-war" movement during the previous decade. As someone who counter-demonstrated against the socialist and Islamist riff-raff in the ANSWER Coalition I can attest to the accuracy of his article:

    A prominent group in the ANSWER Coalition that Hitchens didn't mention was the Party for Socialism and Liberation which was a rump group of the WWP. Here's a few details about that wonderful bunch of commies:

    The aforementioned Muslim American Society (MAS), which was another prominent member of the ANSWER Coalition and had its logo emblazoned on the podium where ANSWER's speakers railed against the evils of America, capitalism, the war against jihadists, etc., is a Muslim Brotherhood legacy group that was in the news recently for all the wrong reasons:



    Like Hitchens said, the vanguard of the "anti-war" movement in America during the 2000s was "a front for (depending on the day of the week) fascism, Stalinism, and jihadism" and "straight-out pro-war, but on the other side".
     
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    I have a hunch this has as much to do with George Mason's vociferous resistance to overlarge, overpowered central government as his slave owning, and to his legacy as "Father of the Bill of Rights" which has thwarted the designs of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex in several ways, namely via the 2A. Mason is a libertarian icon in U.S. history, and unlike Patrick Henry, for whom we at least have "give me liberty or give me death," anti federal statists Mason and Sam Adams have been all but written/revised out of Complex "approved history." This is just a logical next step for Complex eradication of its enemies. Jefferson, another keystone anti central statist figure, had too much a role to wholly write out, so they branded him with the overblown Sally Hemmings revision instead amid other attacks on his legacy.

    There is significant scholarship suggesting that Mason was anti slavery despite being born into owning slaves. This scholarship has been "discredited" and revised by Complex hacks who must conform everything to the "evil white male slaveholder founding father" myth in support of their current politics and the blessedly dying black grievance industry. Read and judge for yourselves:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason (emphasis added)
     
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    I think we are in agreement on this... I can see an argument for renaming Civil War named items but I cannot for Founding Father Era items.. George Mason has to be the most vanilla member of that ERA to retain relevance...

    But at the end of the day, it's up to the community or their elected reps.... It's Richmond.... get ready for an Arthur Ashe Elementary School......8)

    Also, I believe all statues of Civil War Generals and the like should only be in Military or Battlefield Parks, so I'd generally be against the ruling on the 2 statues... I'm betting an appeal is in the works..
     
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    We are in agreement.

    LOL - It is Richmond, which is why you won't be surprised to hear that Ashe already has an elementary school named after him in the East End (Highland Park).

    That's a pretty safe bet, but I think that's an uphill battle and perhaps people would be better served saving their money and lobbying for a repeal of the monuments act so that local communities can decide for themselves.

    As for moving the statues, there's plenty of room for them in the battlefields around Richmond which, unlike Gettysburg, are noticeably lacking in statuary. However, removing the statues in the Largest Showcase of Second Place Trophies in the World (Monument Avenue) poses a much more complicated problem but thankfully the debate has been, for the most part, between reasonable people of good faith who are trying to work out a compromise that most folks can live with.
     
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    Simple solution. Just number the schools with no names authorized. So instead of going to George Mason elementary, the kids to to public school 105 or PS 105.
     
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    Nonsense.

    At some point in the future, if humanity changes and determines that abortion is murder, making it illegal. .. does that mean that they should claim all accomplishments of any pro choice individual be removed and tear down their statutes?

    That would be stupid. Just like this is.
     
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    Given what we now know about the FBI can we trust what they put in their files about MLK? He did have a Communist advisor, but I doubt that MLK was a Communist or that a Communist wrote the I Have A Dream speech. It did not take a clever Communist strategist to generate mass opposition to racial discrimination in the South in the 60s.

    Of course the Communists wanted their powerful capitalist American enemy to play Rope A Dope in Vietnam, drain its resources, demoralize its troops and its people and eventually lose the war. And the USG obliged them in detail.

    Want to find Communists and American idiots? Look first and carefully at all our leaders responsible for the decision to go to war in Vietnam and install Diem in the South. Then investigate the leaders who crafted our war fighting strategy and tactics.
     
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    Most Democrats, as opposed to their professional politicians, are not aware of the sustained racism that still infects their party's leaders and policies.
    The politicians know what they are doing.
     
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    I'm very familiar with the A*N*S*W*E*R*E* Coalition which is a splinter group of the Party of Socialism and Liberation (PSL) which is a splinter group of CPUSA who always got their marching orders from the Kremlin until the Soviet Union lost the Cold War.

    The A*N*S*W*E*R*E* Coalition members hide their faces with bandanas at pro illegal alien demonstrations and are always attacking cops at demonstrations.

    A*N*S*W*E*R*E* members seem to always show up at Trump rallies to disrupt and attack Trump supporters.
    Just another radical leftist organization who are part of the Democratic party's "Resistance" to take down the current executive branch of the federal government.

    FYI:
    The Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who were the leaders of the anti Vietnam War movement were also a splinter group of CPUSA.

    The SDS had close ties with the Black Panthers.

    The terrorist organization, Weather Underground formally the Weathermen was a splinter group of the SDS.

    After the Cold War, Russia revealed that the Soviet Union spent more money financing the anti Vietnam War movement in America and Europe than they did on the National Liberation Front (Viet Cong)

    It seems that the entire left wing in America during the 60's, 70's and the 80's were useful idiots of the Kremlin.

    One thing we know today, Facebook who sold advertising to the Russians so they could meddle in our 2016 presidential elections are useful idiots of the Kremlin.
     
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    When dealing with J. Edgar Hoover's FBI, they kept a **** file on every President from FDR to Nixon.
    J. Edgar Hoover's FBI also spied on a whole lot of Americans and foreigners like John Lennon and the Beatles.

    Lessons learned or sometimes forgotten...
    Don't ever mess with the leadership of the FBI, they get butthurt very easily.

    When President Nixon bypassed Mark Felt the Associate Director of the FBI as J. Edgar Hoover's replacement, Mark Felt was butthurt and decided to take down President Nixon. Mark Felt was Deep Throat.

    The FBI had to clean house after Hoover and Deep Throat.

    It's more than obvious that the FBI today needs to clean house because under Obama the FBI has become politicized.

    The Kremlin was directly involved in the civil rights movement during the 60's and 70's.
    Agitate, cause trouble and divide America.
     
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    And Nixon, the naive twit, actually pardoned the FBI felon, Mark Felt, without ever knowing that Felt had brought him down.

    I doubt that the FBIs house will ever be cleaned. The DOJ/FBI and everyone connected with the DOJ/FBI obviously has a COI with respect to it's own crimes.
     
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    Mark Felt (Deep Throat) used the WaPo to take down Nixon.

    When Mark Felt (Deep Throat) told Bob Woodward of the WaPo to follow the money trail, how did Deep Throat know that Nixon had a slush fund ?

    Maybe some illegal spying on Nixon by J. Edgar Hoover's FBI ?

    It was J. Edgar Hoover who in 1968 notified candidate for President Richard M. Nixon that President LBJ had bugged Nixon's private plane.
     
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    it never ceases to amaze me how little mention and credit Samuel Adams gets in contemporary American History for the pivotal role he played in the founding of our nation. If there were two indispensable men during the Revolutionary Era they had to be Adams during the pre-Revolutionary period (primarily 1764 to 1775) and then George Washington during the war itself. No man was more tireless and relentless in the pursuit of American independence than Adams, and for that he was one of only two men who were excluded from the amnesties the British Crown extended to rebellious Colonists and his capture made one of the chief objectives of the raids on Lexington and Concord.

    I suspect, as you mentioned in your post, that his "Anti-Federalist" opposition to the Constitution and the centralization of power in the federal government may have had a lot to do with this and the portrayals of him as merely a rabble rouser amongst the Sons of Liberty (a la the ludicrous History Channel series) while ignoring the fact that he was a brilliant intellectual and politician and the leading ideologue and voice of American Independence. As far as I'm concerned, his face should be on Mount Rushmore instead of that of Theodore Roosevelt, and where Jefferson's memorial in Washington stands there should be a monument Adams. It's unbelievable how one of the greatest Founding Fathers became a footnote in American History.
     
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    And while they're numbering the schools like they do in the Big Apple (ugh) they might as well rename Richmond after that city, too. We don't want people to get upset remembering that Richmond was once the Capital of the Confederacy. :eek:
     

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