Erdogan to Putin – Why did you send troops to Ukraine? Did they invite you?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by litwin, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2006
    Messages:
    7,377
    Likes Received:
    799
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What I am saying is that Nikita Khrushchev gave Ukraine away.
     
  2. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,043
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My friend, what do you mean? :) Crimea is in Russia! :)
     
  3. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    tell it UN) but no one is gonna listen your vata arguments, Crimea is part of Ukraine
     
  4. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2006
    Messages:
    7,377
    Likes Received:
    799
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yep, and Texas is an independent, sovereign nation.
     
  5. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    in your vata world yes and i love it, you know 31 per barrel today , 20 in 2016 and bye , bye ulus juchi, welcome GDL)
     
  6. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,043
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What has to do Crimea with oil prices? It will stay in Russia independently on the oil prices :grin: I think of going there this year also. I liked there very much!
     
  7. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    oil price is a synonym for juchi ulus, so you think your ulus can functioning with 20 price?
     
  8. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,043
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course, it can. In 1999 the price was even less and nothing happened.
     
  9. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    vata economy, still going strong ) good luck with it , next year in Washington?
     
  10. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,683
    Likes Received:
    25,617
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Putin is in the Ukraine because the Ukraine disarmed itself.

    Erdogan has not disarmed.
     
  11. Yetzerhara

    Yetzerhara Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,283
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Texas was at one point. It was not forcefully conquered by the US of A. I think for you to compare Texas entering the US as equivalent to Russia invading independent sovereign Ukraine and seizing part of its territory illegally is absurd.

    Now I appreciate Russians are like Americans by nature Chauvenists. You both have histories that are deeply connected to military wars and history but that's where the similiarity ends. Ukraine was never part of Russia. It was captured forcefully by Russia.

    Russians like you are in denial about your forced conquering (and starvation) of Ukraine in the past and now.

    Kruschev could not give away something he never owned. In a drunken fit he supposedly claimed to gave back Crimea. It was a drunken delusion.

    Russia invaded Ukraine as retaliation for what it perceived NATO expansion into the Baltic states, Georgia, Moldavia, Armenia.

    Putin went back to cold war fear of Western Europe instead of joining NATO.

    Now look, I do not blame Putin for scorning Obama.I also side with him overn Erdogan of Turkey but not over your delusions as to Ukraine. Eventually they will liberate their nation from you Putinites.

    Think about it comrade. If your beloved motherland had joined NATO and Western Europe you could be taking in millions of Syrian refugees-you know the people your beloved leader claims to be saving but won't bring in.

    Ruskies. You stink at hockey. The only thing I concede is you have incredible musicians, artists and ballet dancers. As for your vodka, no thanks. One would be crazy to drink with you comrades. You were born with no livers and I suspect you Putinites were also born with no hearts.
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    in 2014, Russia's budget was based on $110 a barrel of oil.

    in 2015, Russia's budget was based on $80 a barrel of oil.

    today, its based on $50 a barrel of oil.

    how low will they go before they try to sell Siberia?
     
  13. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Experts say 20$, then collapse..
    I do agree with them, I have colleagues in moscoy, they have panic already...
     
  14. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/07/...up-to-close-examination-popov-says/#arvlbdata
     
  15. legojenn

    legojenn New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,054
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Paragraph of the day! I hope that I have the privilege of using that in conversation (with appropriate citation, of course).
     
  16. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,043
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I see, you have nothing to object, just speculations.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Noone is going to sell Siberia. There were much worse times in Russian history and the country coped with the problems.
    The more, it will handle 20 dollars per barrel. With such prices, actually not only Russia, but all the countries that deliver oil will have problems.
     
  17. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,043
    Likes Received:
    933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I do not know whom you have in Russia, but all those who produce panic are just provocateurs and rats.
     
  18. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,220
    Likes Received:
    13,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Syrian Government is not legitimate"

    Please state how the Gov't of Saud, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, China, Russia on and on is any more legitimate than the Syrian Regime currently in power.
     
  19. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just ordinary family men and women, they maybe followed your and zhirk advice and bought properties 1 year ago...
     
  20. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Egypt and China are at least controlling 90-100% of their territory, asad czar over 10 % of Syria, only alawi lands under him...
     
  21. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,220
    Likes Received:
    13,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is your problem ? So because Ukraine is not controlling 90-100% of its territory at present .. the Gov't is not Legitimate and we should, on this basis, allow Russia to just take over ?

    Spare me this abject nonsense .... Please Stop and think for just a moment about what you are saying.
     
  22. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    only for marginals and paid trolls , according EU/USA/UN Ukraine is a democratic country , soon part of EU
     
  23. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,220
    Likes Received:
    13,636
    Trophy Points:
    113
    According to Russia, China, and so on. Syria is a sovereign nation.

    Your point ?
     
  24. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    and Zimbabwe , why you don live in Zimbabwe or Juchi? China ))) LOL
     

Share This Page