Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

or maybe, as many do, maybe he just re-used the folders

This is about Trump's ego and refusal to be told what to do

There is ZERO evidence that he did or planned to do anything illegal with these documents.

Ultimately, all they have is obstruction, and this is just going to continue to feed the witch hunt/victim nar

 

TFF!

 

FINGERPRINT all the folders, empty or not, along with every piece of paper that one needs a security and top security clearance to even gaze at..


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I just can't think of a good reason Trump would have 43 classified folders sitting completely empty. This new evidence is concerning, especially when you consider that Trump's attorneys already apparently lied to the FBI during the first attempt to gather these documents

 

Bill Barr had something of a come-to-Jesus.
Trump was livid and did his same-old-same-old, tells ridiculous lies about his old lap-dog who was as corrupt as he is who has now been trying salvage his reprehensible legacy as Trump's Attorney General, not Americas.
Too little too late Barr but it is pathetically amusing when you literally speak the truth.

 

Trump and his little soldiers loved all things Bill Barr for years as long as he did Trump's bidding.
Remember kiddos, all Trump is good for is using then abusing people and taking anyone's money.
Hopefully for their sake, some of Trump's old political stooges, now his enemies, have learned some valuable lessons having sold their soul to him for power, prestige and money.


"He was a weak and pathetic RINO"
September 2, 2022 / Posted on Truth Social, Statements by Donald J. Trump


“Bill Barr had “no guts,” and got “no glory.” He was a weak and pathetic RINO, who was so afraid of being Impeached that he became a captive to the Radical Left Democrats – “Please, please, please don’t impeach me,” he supposedly said. Barr never fought the way he should have for Election Integrity, and so much else. He started off OK as A.G., but faded fast – Didn’t have courage or stamina. People like that will never Make America Great Again!”

By Donald J. Trump

A waste of time & money

September 2, 2022 / Posted on Truth Social, Statements by Donald J. Trump

“Former A.G. Bill Barr was fired long before I left the White House on January 20th. He acted very slowly on the “No Collusion” Mueller Report in that the FBI and “Justice” had the “Laptop from Hell” in their possession, which totally exonerated me long before Mueller’s decision came out, years later – A waste of time & money. The Laptop information should have been released BEFORE the Rigged Election, not after it, for the VOTERS TO SEE. He was petrified of the lunatic Dems & of being Impeached!”

By Donald J. Trump

 

Of course the Mar a largo search/seize had everything to do with Meadows turning them over along with knowing that Trump's White House lawyer Pat Cipollone and his deputy Pat Philben were interviewed by the FBI.
All 3 were Trump's designated guys overseeing the return of documents to the NARA before he left office including all "electronic communication" under the "Presidential Act".

Did Cassidy Hutchinson fill in a lot of blanks for the FBI on the not returned documents and how the incompetent Meadows just caved into Trump's "their mine" and ended up ignoring the NARA's emails?

Betcha she did.

"After Mar-a-Lago search, Meadows turns over more texts and emails to Archives"
Source: CNN Politics

Snips:

(CNN) Within a week of the FBI search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows handed over texts and emails to the National Archives that he had not previously turned over from his time in the administration,"

The Archives had become aware earlier this year it did not have everything from Meadows after seeing what he had turned over to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021. Details of Meadows' submissions to the Archives and the engagement between the two sides have not been previously reported. "It could be a coincidence, but within a week of the August 8 search on Mar-a-Lago, much more started coming in," one source familiar with the discussions said.

The source familiar with the discussions said that the Archives considered Meadows to be cooperating, even though the process started slowly. "This is how it's supposed to work," the source added, saying it was not the kind of situation that needed to be referred to the Justice Department.

'Another person familiar with the matter said the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago had nothing to do with Meadows' decision to turn over the materials to the Archives, as it was a separate discussion.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/mark-meadows-texts-emails-national-archives/index.html

 

Next stop for FBI tourists,


"Tucked in the lobby of Manhattan’s Trump Tower is a bar called 45 Wine and Whiskey. At this Hard Rock Cafe knockoff, visitors can enjoy walls plastered with Trump presidential memorabilia that was likely snuck out of the White House—including a folder marked “classified.”

 

Says the guy whose father-in-law Trump, who never would have gotten even a "run of the mill" security clearance in the real world, bestowed a Top Secret clearance on the head of the wax figure Kushner.

POLITICS
Jared Kushner Dismisses Trump's Top-Secret Document Stash As 'Paperwork' Issue

"As to why his father-in-law took the documents, Kushner told Sky News to ask him. "What I will say is that ... he was under constant attack,” he added."
Sep 2, 2022, 08:47 PM EDT

snip:

"Yet Kushner calmly shrugged off Trump’s stash of documents and the significant security risk it posed in an interview with Rupert Murdoch’s Sky News.

“Why did the president take home top secret documents?” Sky News host Kay Burley grilled Kushner.

“You have to ask him that question,” Kushner responded. “But what I will say is that ... he was under constant attack,” he added.

“Yeah, but he took top secret documents home, potentially risking the security of the United States,” Burley shot back.

Kushner replied: “This seems like it’s an issue of paperwork that should’ve been able to be worked out between DOJ and [Trump]. I don’t know what he took or what he didn’t take, but I think right now that we’re relying on leaks to the media.”

cont:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jare...p-secret-paperwork_n_63127539e4b0ed021de80002

 

We have no idea what he took home, and we likely never will. It very well could be the documents were declassified and/or shouldn't be classified in the first place (I served for 10 years, when it comes to classification, I'm well aware the policy is better safe than sorry and way too much is and/or remains unnecessarily classified). But the ultimate classification authority (because that person is ultimately responsible for any decision made based on that information!) doesn't have to be safe over sorry in those decisions.

Anyone who doesn't see the Constitutional threat with unknown accusers accusing the POTUS of crimes based on unknown information, either is ignorant of how our checks and balances system is supposed to work (and how it can be exploited), or is lying.

 

It's quite simple, written in plain English.


Snip:

• Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

 

NOT so simple. 2 things stand out about your link:

1) It states that personal records do exist within an administration. What is not simple is WHO determines what is personal and public? In the current Trump case, we have no idea WHO that is, or what document(s) they challenge the POTUS is illegally keeping, and why their word and expertise should be trusted to overrule the former POTUS's word that he is permitted to have them. That is an extreme danger to our checks and balances system.

2) The Archivist has no power to check the POTUS. At a glance, it appears that the Archivist reports to the POTUS, and advises on what should be public records, as well as provide services regarding records. It appears that the law states that all of the determinative actions regarding decisions on what is, or is not, public record, rests with the current or former POTUS. Which is a problem for Democrats, as they have already stated definitively, the POTUS didn't have anything to do with the raid.

I got news for them: Biden is the ONLY one that can challenge Trump on what documents he can have. But he didn't. Meaning someone else is challenging the POTUS on what he is allowed to have. That's a sham. The way this would work if he really had sensitive national security information, is that the people charged with the defense of the nation, the DoD, would advise Biden that national security depended on his retrieval of these documents, and THEN Biden would use the FBI or any other of his resources to obtain the documents. But there would be no crime. And by the Democrats admission, that's not what happened anyway.

Could the Congress convene and impeach the former POTUS, depending on how egregious they felt the actions were regarding the documents. Yes, that's part of checks and balances. But again, no crime. Just like with the insurrection fantasy, you got dereliction of duty, AT BEST.

 

What don't you get that none of what Trump stole belongs to him?
A president does not just say that this stuff here is personal and mine and he automatically gets it all.

Biden left it to the NARA about Executive Privilege and did give the NARA the permission to have them turn over all the documents/Top Secret/classified they had from the Jan 2022 stash that Trump handed over to the FBI.

Trump had more then enough time with his now stolen documents/papers while in the White House and from Mar a Largo to begin the process in place under the Presidential Records Act to begin determining what is personal and what is government property,
He chose to ignore requests to transfer presidential records/electronic records to the NARA.

Everything is now in the hands of the FBI under the criminal codes listed in the Subpoena along with a counter-intelligence investigation that recently began.

 

What don't you get about the fact that not just anyone can claim that the former POTUS has documents he shouldn't have, and it lead to an FBI raid? Are you saying I can just claim that, and the Justice Department has to act on it? I can't. Now if I witnessed Trump commit murder, or another crime, sure, I can make an accusation, and the Justice Department would have to at least do a cursory investigation. No one is above the law. But this is a documents dispute that can only be a dispute if the current POTUS says it is.

Congress can get in on it, (again, checks and balances), vote to impeach, but the scope of that impeachment would be limited to dereliction of duty. Either the executive, Congress, or Trump could sue, and the SCOTUS could also weigh in on it. But again, it's the current POTUS that has to get the ball rolling, as well as make his case to the public that he's not being a tyrant, and not remain silent for days, go on vacation, and then claim he knew nothing. That doesn't comport with the gravity of the authority that he, and he only has to order the Justice Department into Trump's home.

The idea that this ends with Trump on trial WITHOUT the current POTUS actually accusing him of something specific, OR Congress, OR the SCOTUS shows a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals behind our system: checks and balances. In other words, they screwed up when they said Biden had nothing to do with it.

 

HUH?
The NARA isn't just anyone nor is the FBI.
The NARA knew records were missing even before Trump left the White House and they tried to get them back to no avail.
Trump's or any president that claims a document is "personal" needs written agreement from the NARA

Biden didn't screw up and he never claimed that he "he had nothing to do with it"

He gave the go ahead when the NARA contacted him that Trump's returned documents in 1-22 contained Top Secret etc ones and they wanted to hand the documents over to the FBI.
So Biden knew that Trump not only took docs/paper that belonged to the government/citizens there were top secret/ classified ones too.

Biden said he didn't know about the 8-8 search warrant ahead of time.

Where you ever got that only Biden is the one who had the authority to give the FBI to search Mar a Largo is mind-boggling ,

A judge had to sign-off on the search warrant.

 

I told you where I got the idea: checks and balances. And the law you linked. It is clear that the law gives discretion to both the incumbent and current POTUS as to what is, and what is not, government record. That's all the information one needs to determine that, in the case of a presidential records dispute, there isn't a dispute, unless the current POTUS says there is a dispute. And even then, if Biden is right about the documents, there is no crime in the case of one POTUS disputing that another should have certain records. If any other person has a dispute about what is, and what is not, a government record, then yes, perhaps they can be charged with a crime. But current and former POTUS's differ, as no law gives any other person discretion to determine what is, and what is not government record, as this law does with outgoing and current POTUS's. It can be reckless and irresponsible, but again, in the case of the POTUS, or former POTUS, all they have there is dereliction of duty. And after the Russia hoax, they have a long way to convince me of even that.

 

Christina Bobb is back to interviewing people at Trump rallies, lol
Trump found Bobb on the OANN channel and Aline Habba on Fox News.


"Christina Bobb, who was leading Trump’s legal team following the search warrant executed at Mar-A-Lago now claims she was never his lawyer relating to the search. This is despite the fact she was in court on his behalf in the search warrant case and made multiple tv appearances as his lawyer on the case. Christina Bobb is now a news reporter for a radical right wing media channel that exclusively covers Trump rallies and serves as his propaganda arm."

 

Hahahahahahahaha!!!! More Trump cannon fodder from lawyers without ethics, ETTD.

 

So if Trump wrote a love letter to Melania, which does nothing but speak of how wonderful she is, in the Oval Office. Is that government property or his personal property?

 

His love letter to Melania is personal, his love letter from Kim Jong Un is not and Trump finally returned it to the NARA.

"Personal records are defined as: “documentary materials or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character, which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President” and which include “diaries, journals, or othe-- personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business,” “private political associations” and “materials relating exclusively to the President’s own election to the office of the Presidency” [44 U.S.C. § 2201(3)]. Personal records remain the personal property of the President or the record creator. Records created by the President-elect and the transition team are also considered personal records. To the extent that these records are received and used after the inauguration by the incoming Presidential Administration, they may become Presidential or Federal records. Former Presidents have traditionally donated these personal transition records to the National Archives and Records Administration for deposit in their Presidential Library."
https://www.archives.gov/files/guid...-archives-and-records-administration-2020.pdf[/QUOTE]

 

I’m fully aware of that. My position is that the language in the warrant was too broad and gave them authority to take ANYTHING in a box personal or not or having ANYTHING to do with the investigation or not.

That is an unconstitutionally broad warrant and warrants have been completely invalidated for having less generalized language than that one.

 

The warrant permits that anything located with classified documents was to be seized along with the classified documents.
That is why Trump's passports were taken, they were in the same drawer in his office along with classified docs.
There are laws on how classified documents are to be stored besides not throwing them in with personal stuff.

 

Oh, BTW, don't know if you saw this, but Kise has been moved off the MAL document case. T**** won't have any difficulty finding another case for him

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sidelines-3m-attorney-inspires-204120629.html

I'm guessing the "interview" with Kise didn't include what he would actually be asked to DO while being a T**** lawyer....

 

Thank you!
I did catch it and posted this last night on "the jig is up" thread.


"I remembered something I had read over at Marcy's "Emptywheel" about Chris Kise..
He was hired to head trump's Mar a largo stolen documents,

Maybe he had to be sidelined from being involved because of the top-secret documents?"

Snip:

September 19,2022

"Meanwhile in 2020, Kise — the guy Trump just uncharacteristically ponied up a $3 million retainer to — registered under FARA to represent Venezuela on sanctions issues before Treasury. That would normally make him ineligible for a clearance, much less one to access some of the most sensitive documents the US owns.

In other words, it’s possible that none of Trump’s attorneys, not even Jim Trusty, are eligible for clearance in this matter. And when I say ineligible, it’s not a close call.

There’s no reason DOJ should be forced to share these materials with someone who was an agent of a foreign power. There’s even less reason to share them with someone who might be implicated in obstruction himself.

In a normal situation, Trump would be told to go find a lawyer with clearance (with the added benefit, to him, that they might know a bit about national security law).

DOJ routinely refuses to make classified materials available in civil suits. And anytime someone tries to order them to do so, they jump through a great many hoops to avoid doing so. In the al-Haramain case suing for illegal surveillance under Stellar Wind, one that has many direct applications to this one, that was true even when the plaintiff had already seen the classified document, as Trump has. In al-Haramain, there was even a cleared lawyer, Jon Eisenberg, with no ties to al-Haramain’s suspect activities, whom the government resisted sharing the key document in question.

The government will do — historically, has done — a great deal to avoid the precedent of a District Court judge ruling that it needs to grant even cleared lawyers the Need to Know very classified information".


https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/...sis-judge-aileen-cannon-deliberately-created/

 

??
Kash Patel and John Solomon, both who are employed by Trump to oversee his presidental documents had been reported as being on Mar a Largo's security tape removing boxes from the so-called secured area.

That info.was from the first security tape that was subpoenaed, not the 2nd subpoenaed tape.



'Trump worker told FBI about moving Mar-a-Lago boxes on ex-president's orders'

Source: WaPo

"Key witness and security-camera footage offer evidence of Trump’s actions after government subpoena, people familiar say

A Trump employee has told federal agents about moving boxes of documents at Mar-a-Lago at the specific direction of the former president, according to people familiar with the investigation, who say the witness account — combined with security-camera footage — offers key evidence of Donald Trump’s behavior as investigators sought the return of classified material.

The witness description and footage described to The Washington Post offer the most direct account to date of Trump’s actions and instructions leading up to the FBI’s Aug. 8 search of the Florida residence and private club, in which agents were looking for evidence of potential crimes including obstruction, destruction of government records or mishandling classified information.

The people familiar with the investigation said agents have gathered witness accounts indicating that, after Trump advisers received a subpoena in May for any classified documents that remained at Mar-a-Lago, Trump told people to move boxes to his residence at the property. That description of events was corroborated by the security-camera footage, which showed people moving the boxes, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Read more: https://wapo.st/3g50tln

 

Snip:

"The employee who was working at Mar-a-Lago is cooperating with the Justice Department and has been interviewed multiple times by federal agents, according to the people familiar with the situation, who declined to identify the worker.


In the first interview, these people said, the witness denied handling sensitive documents or the boxes that might contain such documents. As they gathered evidence, agents decided to re-interview the witness, and the witness’s story changed dramatically, these people said. In the second interview, the witness described moving boxes at Trump’s request.

The witness is now considered a key part of the Mar-a-Lago investigation, these people said, offering details about the former president’s alleged actions and instructions to subordinates that could have been an attempt to thwart federal officials’ demands for the return of classified and government documents."

Read more: https://wapo.st/3g50tln