He is a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) traitor. Not that I agree with the wire tapping and surveillance, but he took the job and signed non-discloure documents. He need to be either shot or in a really (*)(*)(*)(*)ty prison for life.
They all want to know what he knows. But the last I heard Snowden has no passport. So what's he traveling on?
The traitorous activity was by the government of these United States of America. Snowden, Assange, Manning are heroes. They sacrificed their "Comfort Zone" for the Truth of It All! How many are brave enough to sacrifice their "Comfort Zone" for the Truth? Are YOU, milorafferty ? Sincerely Moi r > g No
Snowden had many more options than going public like he did. Society cannot function if the system breaks down. While I admire him for wanting to tell the truth I cannot justify the method he used unless it was a last resort. Deep throat took down the Nixon administration by staying in the shadows.
How many are brave enough to sacrifice their "Comfort Zone" for the Truth? Are YOU, milorafferty ? Sincerely Moi milorafferty, who is the traitor? The one who refuses to defend, "FREEDOM" or the one who volunteers to loose their "FREEDOM" to maintain their comfort zone. Please explain.
You don't want to know the government is spying on YOU? You don't think it's important people know the government is being Orwellian? The government are the traitors....
No he didn't and I would do the same thing he did had I had that information... Now this poor man is hiding in Russia and is an enemy of this government for exposing this government...
Who is the traitor? Snowden. 99.9% of the information he released had nothing to do with metadata collection on Americans. It was mostly on foreign intelligence programs. How is revealing all of those foreign collection programs not treasonous?
So what if it involved tapping Merkle's cellphone. Don't YOU remember or miss, "Truth, Justice and the American Way" Manning, Assange and Snowden too are Heroes of FREEDOM. What part don't you get? A Copy of this upload is on file at the Federal, NSA facility in Utah. You like that lil Mike? Moi r > g No
Consider the cases of those who tried to work within the system, like Thomas Drake and others. They all tried to reason with their supervisors, pointing out what was wrong and that certain actions were illegal. Not ONE of them succeeded. Kiriakou went to prison. Sterling is in prison. Drake didn't go to prison, but his life was ruined by trying to work within the guidelines. Snowden did the right thing, and the hard thing. It is NEVER wrong to reveal the crimes of government.
If this is not the answer, please type the question again, slowly. The Traitor is the Government of these United States of America not the individuals brave enough to "out government crimes against our Constitutional guarantees" ref the Bill of Rights.. Imagine a really "fair" trial. Not in secret. As televised as the O.J. hearings. Let Manning, Assange, Snowden and the Federals stand trial as equals. My guess is, The Federals would be found guilty of the most major crimes against, "us". Does that answer da question? Oh and Lil Mike, the question for you left unanswered A Copy of this upload is on file at the Federal, NSA facility in Utah. You like that lil Mike? Moi Got FREEDOM? Less and less! r > g
Who is the traitor? I am sure we disagree, but this is my opinion. Moi's IMO The Government of these United States of America is the biggest traitor. Collecting data on our allies and complain when Israel does it to "us" Now it is YOUR Turn, lil Mike "Oh and Lil Mike, the question for you left unanswered A Copy of this upload is on file at the Federal, NSA facility in Utah. You like that lil Mike?" Moi Opinions are like noses, everyone has got one. r > g View attachment 39044 lil Mike. Do you know of the Provincial FREEDOMS and Provincial autonomy that were stolen by Ottawa? Never Forget: Louis Reil Day November 16, [video=youtube;RV1ZqCWDdQ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV1ZqCWDdQ0[/video] Is lil Mike really a with Ottawa sympathies?
So you can't really answer my question, or at least answer it in a coherent way. Not surprise. This Snowden issue has been going on for years, and I've often asked Snowdenphiles to explain why if Snowden is such a hero-patriot, the vast majority of information he released was on legitimate foreign intelligence gathering programs? As you might expect, they can't respond to that simple question. Snowden's actions sound like the actions of someone who wants to weaken the US against China and Russia. In other words, a traitor.
Last try. PAH-Leeze type your question slowly and succinctly so I may more better answer per your acceptance but not agreement. ( )0( ) before I reply to lil Mike's question a third time attempt, how about lil Mike take a stab at replying to A Copy of this Upload is on file at the Federal, NSA facility in Utah. You like that lil Mike? gracias. failure to converse will result in no reply y'betchya. Moi r > g I betchya lil Mike is eh
Releasing information on perfectly legal and Constitutional foreign intelligence collection was good? Had he stopped at domestic surveillance, I'd agree with you. He'd be a hero. But he didn't. He chose to commit espionage instead. It would be like calling a guy a hero when he uses his CCW to stop a gunman, but he also blindly fired into a crowd and killed a handful of innocent people. The wrong overrides the right.
Is Snowden a Traitor or a hero? The answer is only based on personal opinion and point of view at least… History shows that all scandals like this one came on to public knowledge when someone became a “traitor”. These people were always in personal conflict before about the things they signed = law and the morality … and so it is the never ending story of answering the question if “morality” is more important. In matter of Snowden we have the fact that he hurts the US much and damages their reputation thoroughly in the world … but it is only thanks to him that world knows which sort of criminal scum the NSA is in reality. For me as German and European it is more as strange how the US public reacts on this all. I mean, in things like gun law the personal rights which are backed by the Constitution are so major important and handled like shrine … but about the criminal activities of NSA even inside USA and the restricted constitutional rights of people out of the "war against terror", nearly nothing in comparison. Whether this “defenselessness” of US citizens against NSA / FBI and CIA is only accepted in good-naturedly, or if they see only no chance to do anything against, is an open question. After the attacks by terrorist on 9/11, security measures were high increased at the expense of citizens' fundamental and constitutional rights. If a new terror attack happens, the need to strengthen monitoring is demanded of course again. If that all is really effectively as claimed has to be doubted. NSA claims to have prevented 54 attacks thanks to that monitoring, but not only a single proof or evidence was given about. At a hearing in Congress, FBI Vice President Sean Joyce had to admit that with the storage of US phone data not 54 attacks were prevented, as previously claimed by the NSA. According to Joyce, the huge wiretapping and storing of phone data of US citizens were only in 12 cases important and only in 1 single case it played a central role. Yet huge data collecting and storing, as well monitoring and wiretapping and so violation against privacy goes on, regardless of whether there is even the slightest suspicion of criminal activity. This all and much more became only public due to fact that Snowden became a traitor and would otherwise never being known. So hard to rate if the morality is higher as the local US law he broke with his whistle blowing…
