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Europe not pulling their weight in Ukraine..

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Starcastle, Apr 17, 2022.

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    gnoib, Apr 19, 2022
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Starcastle, Apr 19, 2022
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  3. gnoib

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    and ?
    Europe is the biggest contributor to the Ukraine war effort, financially and materially, worth 10 billion Euro as of now.

    You are just a un-informed snowflake, cry baby american.

    But then whats new.
     
    gnoib, Apr 19, 2022
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    Like the Ukrainians are dying today
     
    Dayton3, Apr 19, 2022
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  5. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Dayton3, Apr 19, 2022
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  6. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The combined GDP of the NATO countries is thirty times more than the GDP of Russia.
     
    yangforward, Apr 19, 2022
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't expect Russia to be carelessly aggressive unless maybe we aren't being told the whole story.
     
    yangforward, Apr 19, 2022
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  8. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    We know that Russia's economy is not bigger than Germany alone. So how much do you think they spend?
     
    Starcastle, Apr 19, 2022
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  9. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    So Russia who is bogged down in one of the poorest countries in Europe can just kill off the bigger more powerful high tech European countries on a whim?

    They are struggling against Ukraine!
     
    Starcastle, Apr 19, 2022
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  10. Dayton3

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    They could learn from this conflict and come back much more effective in the future.
     
    Dayton3, Apr 19, 2022
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  11. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    In the hundreds of billions of dollars equivalent range.
     
    Dayton3, Apr 19, 2022
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    Europe has no duty to Ukraine. They get what they get.

    It is all really expensive virtue signaling anyway. If you aren't willing to commit troops, you are just putting on a show. If anything, helping protract an inevitable defeat is probably causing more death and destruction than just having let the place fall quickly.
     
    Chrizton, Apr 20, 2022
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  13. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Really? How can they afford that with their economy?
     
    Starcastle, Apr 20, 2022
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  14. Dayton3

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    A nation can afford just about whatever level of funding it wants it if wants to make the sacrifice.
     
    Dayton3, Apr 20, 2022
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  15. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    So why do they suck so bad? Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe and they are holding their own against Russia.

    And no a country cannot spend more than 5% of their GDP on military that is why the Soviet union went bankrupt.
     
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    Starcastle, May 1, 2022
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  16. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Still waiting for the proof that Europe has spent $10B to help Ukraine. That is nonsense.
     
    Starcastle, May 1, 2022
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  17. Dayton3

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    The U.S. spent more than 5% of its GDP our military through much of the Cold War and we came out just fine.
     
    Dayton3, May 1, 2022
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  18. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    :wierdface:
    In 1980 our GDP was 2.85T and defense budget was $135B. So not quite.

    Interesting that we have a budget deficit similar to our entire GDP from 1980 and nobody seems to care how much we spend. A billion here $800M there.

    Our government is spending $7T a year now. No problem. Don't want to upset the white people in Europe.
     
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    Starcastle, May 2, 2022
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    Because our government is addicted to spending. Nobody forces government to spend money it doesn't have. It is a choice.
     
    fmw, May 2, 2022
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  20. Dayton3

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    The Cold War was much, much more than just 1980.
     
    Dayton3, May 2, 2022
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  21. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Tucker had an interesting observation in last night's show. He noted that the idiot democrats from congress who just visited Ukraine to talk big about Ukraine winning the war are the same tools who led the Russia collusion lies. Pelosi and Adam Schitt. I don't think Swalwell was there probably because of his gas problem.

    So instead of us working with Germany to end this war they seem to want it to escalate. It is not enough for Russia to back off and go home we have to win!

    It's not just dems remember Tom Cotton and a slew of republicans say the same things. They do not want to be accused of being tools for Putin.

    It's pathetic. We have $30T in debt and idiots who control our purse strings want to right Ukraine a blank check and escalate a war with Russia.

    As I said before we should not provide one cent more than what the EU is sending. This is not our personal war!
     
    Starcastle, May 3, 2022
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  22. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    For some of us it is.
     
    Dayton3, May 3, 2022
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    Ukraine: €17 billion of EU funds to help refugees
    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/...ocks-17-billion-of-eu-funds-to-help-refugees/

    Update May 2, 2022
    US: 10,3 billion
    EU: 12,8 billion
    https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

    Why is it so hard to inform oneself first and then comment on something? Time and again there are way too many people (usually from the same place) who seem to think being illinformed and making uneducated statements is a great achievement.
     
    Caligula, May 3, 2022
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