Everyone driving electric cars----------what a joke.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha
    We live in an area that loses power dozen times a year, and often for days at a time. We use the generators (two) a lot. I’ve never used a gun to protect my propane and diesel fuel....the need of a gun is waaaaY over rated.
     
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    Not for long.
     
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    It is the ghost in the machine. A machine can be set up to fabricate a part. Material can be fed in and the machine can make a perfect part, just like every other part. Time after time, part after part. But every so often, for reasons that can’t be fully explained, it kicks out a bad part. The same with assemblies, assembly after assembly, whether by human labor or robotics, will roll off the assembly line, exactly like the one before it. But ever so often, one goes bad. It is as if there is a law of nature that requires it.
     
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    The two are directly related. See post #113.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Guns? How did we get on that topic?
     
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    Lol...you really don’t understand the science of climate change, do you?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Off topic: I like your avatar very much. I wish I were there, wherever that is. It was below zero here a couple of days ago.

    :tears:
     
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    “But one of the biggest keys to survival in an emergency is of course a firearm as demonstrated by Katrina.”
    Final statement in post from JET to you.
     
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    This post here proves you don't know...[​IMG]
     
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    Not to mention Norway, or Denmark. Very cold places are managing to produce nearly half of their energy via wind turbines.
     
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    No one claims that. We're in a transitional phase. Gradually, as technologies progress, clean energy will become much less costly than that from fossil fuels.
     
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    You're replying about a post that I haven't seen yet. Weird.
     
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    Exactly.
    This why a lot of good teachers retire early..
     
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    Singled itself out as what? A good example?
     
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    5g, we can see into the future.
     
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    I won't tell, I promise!
     
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    Do you speak for gun owners everywhere?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too bad we can't see into the past, but if we could, this thread would be moot.
     
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    “So how did such a powerhouse get knocked so thoroughly offline?

    We may not know the full definitive reason for a while, but a few things are clear:

    • Obviously, Texas winters ain't usually this cold. The state's infrastructure is simply not prepared for a deep freeze.
    • Critics of renewables will try to blame wind turbines, but experts note that wind makes up a small share of Texas' energy consumption.
    • It's also worth pointing out that a lot of chillier places have wind turbines that don't buckle in the cold — hello, Iowa; hej hej, Denmark — they just need to be winterized, a step experts said Texas has skipped.
    • The Lone Star State is ... all alone. Texas made a conscious decision to isolate its energy grid from the rest of the country. That means that when things are running smoothly, it can't export excess power to neighboring states. And in the current crisis, it can't import power either. 
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    The fuel producing the most electricity in Iowa is WIND.

    I believe there were sound reasons for that happening.
     
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    I don't know who your "we" is, but coal is dying.

    Take a look at the stats from any energy analysis.
     
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    It often get the blame for starting ICE engines. But the battery isn't the sole reason for not starting a car.
    With extreme cold, fluids become more viscous. And parts become more stiff.
    So it takes greater battery energy to get those things moving.

    What cold weather does expose is a battery that is getting weak.
     
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    What has sent Texas reeling is not an engineering problem, nor is it the frozen wind turbines blamed by prominent Republicans. It is a financial structure for power generation that offers no incentives to power plant operators to prepare for winter. In the name of deregulation and free markets, critics say, Texas has created an electric grid that puts an emphasis on cheap prices over reliable service.”
     
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    I was on a plan like that in Oregon 15 years ago. They don't run power from your choice of provide to your home. You "choose" green power and pay a higher price at that time and it was to help develop green power by funding it. So YOU do some research first. Find someone who is signed up for that "green power" and see if their neighbor who is NOT getting green power is on the same power source. When either looses power, BOTH lose power because they are getting it from the same place and one is paying for "green power".
     
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    You can't get it more cheaply than from hydro. And the REAL costs are everything in your bill other than the cost of the electricity! In Massachusetts and New Hampshire the power companies love to advertise that your electricity costs from 6¢ to 8¢ per kWh depending on the plan, but study into what the don't want to tell you and find the added costs for "distribution charge" and various fees, assessments, and "adjustments". In both those states that nice-sounding 6¢ or 8¢ suddenly becomes 19¢ per kWh!!

    Find a PUD. No profit. Suddenly you pay 7¢ per kWh plus a service charge of $15 per month like I do.

    Do this: since your electricity costs what the bill says, take that billed amount and divide it by the kWhs your bill says you used for the month. That will tell you the REAL cost per kWh for your juice. Mine works out to 8.4¢ per kWh for a typical month in which I use 2000 kWhs.
     
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