Evidence for the Holocaust?

question: why were the cremation ovens soo small if they were going to be cremating hundreds of thousands of people?

 

American soldiers silently inspect some of the rail trucks loaded with dead which were found on the rail siding at the Dachau concentration camp in Germany, on May 3, 1945. (AP Photo)

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Bodies lie piled against the walls of a crematory room in a German concentration camp in Dachau, Germany. The bodies were found by U.S. Seventh Army troops who took the camp on May 14, 1945. (AP Photo)

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Three U.S. soldiers look at bodies stuffed into an oven in a crematorium in April of 1945. Photo taken in an unidentified concentration camp in Germany, at time of liberation by U.S. Army. (U.S. Army/LOC)

 

This heap of ashes and bones is the debris from one day’s killing of German prisoners by 88 troopers in the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar in Germany, shown on April 25, 1945. (AP Photo/U.S. Army Signal Corps)

 

this is Auschwitz. warning, very graphic

[video=youtube;w5WXIF67J2w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5WXIF67J2w[/video]

 

They built more than one and it takes a certain amount of time to burn just one body. They burnt more than one on a pallet because by then they were so emaciated from starvation that more than one could burn as one.

 

all the ovens I have seen are small.

it would have taken a lifetime to burn all the bodies.

 

You wanted to discuss specific defendents. I am doing that, but you seem reticent to do so. Why is that?

Now one more time

Why did he not recant in his memoirs. In his letter to the tribunal 4 days before sentencing, why did he blame his "Blind faith in authority" for his actions rather than recant any of the evidence. Why did he decide to use the "Just following orders" excuse if he'd not done anything wrong?

 

It's actually a pile of dirt if you look closely.

 

why is Life magazine not legit evidence?

 

Dirty bones since they were dug up. I suppose you think the bones were "Photoshopped".

 

No you are not doing that, as anyone can see. You are just repeating your assertion that Hoess was "sorry", as if that verifies the official Holocaust story. People who are brutally tortured often say such things. Let's say he really was sorry for something. Does that prove the Holocaust?

 

why isn't Life magazine legit?

 

At what point have I claimed Hoess ever entertained the idea he was sorry? Others were very forthright in their final statements to the various tribunals they faced about their innocence and their thoughts on the whole tribunal process. Hoess is on the verge of going down in history as one of the greatest villains of all time. Even in his last letter to his family does he make any claim of being innocent.no?

 

i will say this: the gas chamber victims were clearly not all burned in the ovens. Those ovens were way too small to handle hundreds of thousands of people. You can't kill 300 people at a time and then burn 10 bodies at a time.

 

Which was the issue they faced at Treblinka. They were basically reduced to open fire pits and using the fat from the bodies to keep the fires going.

 

More pointless nitpicking. You said "thought he did something wrong" I said "sorry". It would be ridiculous even if was part of a good point, which it isn't.

 

This gives a good idea what the crematoria were able to handle.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

 

Acknowledging you did something wrong is not the same as saying sorry. But why are you dancing around what he said in the letter to the tribunal and his own memoirs you were so quick to use in evidence a few pages back

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All this evidence has to be thrown out - The author has a Jewish sounding name. So clearly he is lying

 

I'm not "dancing around" anything. Hoess was tortured so his Holocaust statement is inadmissible. Whether he "thought he did something wrong" (or said so under torture) is not evidence of the official Holocaust story. That is all.

 

LOL, even denier evidence would get thrown out if done by someone with a Jewish sounding name.

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You have any proof he was tortured? If so, show us the evidence.

 

Rupert Butler wrote a book after interviewing Clarke, the British Jew who tortured him.

 

why not?

 

Not credible. Now let's see some evidence.

 

mere hearsay.

 

I recommend that everyone do some browsing around the Holocaust section of the "War on You" forum. There's some interesting stuff there.

I've been looking at this thread.
http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=0f9c96d84a13eb801847932c094ba251&topic=163.0

I found this.
http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndWeber.html
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1.2. No Documentary Evidence

The German authorities kept astonishingly detailed records of every aspect of camp affairs.[13] Remarkably, though, there is no contemporary documentary evidence of homicidal gassings or of a policy of mass extermination in the camps. Not a single contemporary German document mentions or even refers to killings of Jews in gas chambers. Nor are there any contemporary plans or diagrams of extermination gas chambers. There is similarly no documentary proof that any of the various rooms or buildings said to have been execution gassing facilities were, in fact, ever used as such.

What 'evidence' there is for mass extermination in the German wartime camps consists entirely of dubious 'testimony', either from a handful of German officials (such as the now discredited "confession" of former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höß), or from a small number of former inmates.[14]

'Eyewitnesses' of gassings are rare. Only a small number of persons has ever claimed to have seen such execution gas chambers in operation, and their scant descriptions of homicidal gassings are typically cursory, vague and/or contradictory. As a number of historians have acknowledged, such testimony is not very credible. Holocaust historian Gitta Sereny has warned that quite a few of the familiar 'eyewitness' testimonies are nothing more than baseless hearsay. Some of the best-known 'memoirs' of extermination gassings, she complains, are "partial or complete fakes, such as Jean-François Steiner's Treblinka or Martin Gray's For Those I Loved".[15]

Similarly, the archives director of Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center has confirmed that more than 10,000 of the 20,000 'testimonies' of Jewish 'survivors' on file there are "unreliable". Many survivors, wanting "to be part of history", apparently let their imaginations run away with them, director Shmuel Krakowski said in 1986.[16]
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I wasn't there so I can't be one hundred percent sure about anything but the Holocaust minimizers make a good case. It seems that they only have testimonies on which to base the whole story. That is not an absolute proof as people can lie.