I'm glad to hear that you believe all those eye witnesses who heard explosions and saw flashes in the WTC buildings before they fell. And oh yea, the ones who heard explosions in the basement BEFORE a plane struck. What's his name? And the black guy, Barry Jennings who said the stairs in building 7 were blown out BEFORE the first tower fell, but who later died from something or another after the detective fellow trying to find him returned the deposit back to the other guy from Loose Change who was trying to locate him, after Jennings had moved off without leaving a return address. And Madam Palfrey who said she had important information that would interest the 9/11 Commission, that might cause consternation for some high ranking members of Congress, which she intended to spill before a Grand Jury but never got the chance to because she "committed suicide" even after she went on national radio and said she had no intentions of doing so. And I'm glad to hear that you also believe the witness of Susan Lindauer the former CIA asset and liaison to Iraq who was going to testify to a Grand jury that her handlers had FOREKNOWLEDGE of an impending attack and unconditional peace offers from the Iraqi government to avoid war, but never got the chance because she was hauled in on the "Patriot" act and imprisoned for 5 years without trial, a formal hearing, legal representation, or even having charges brought to her by her accusers. And I'm glad to hear that you believe the witness testimony of Lt Col Anthony Shaffer of "Able Danger" who said his knowledge of terrorist activity was suppressed before he was railroaded for trying to make it known, and who later had his books containing an account of the ordeal confiscated by the CIA and burned. It's good to know that you place as much stock in the witness testimonies of people who have occupied positions in US military and intelligence as well as the man in the street witnesses who were in New York on 9/11, including all the first responders, and other inspectors and professionals who say they saw molten metal in the wreckage. I'm glad to hear that you have as much faith in the testimony of EYE WITNESSES who are ordinary Americans as well as distinguished scholars, scientists, and pilots as you seem to have in the word of the flaming Zionist Philip Zelikow who filtered and censored everything the 9/11 Commission was privy to and wrote about, or in the word of Silverstein when he said he didn't mean "pull" when he said "pull". It's good to hear that you trust the judgements and witness of run of the mill American citizens as you do the establishment media and their titular heads who tell them what they can and cannot say.
Please note that the assumption that all you have to do is push the throttles to max and fly the aircraft & you can fly an airliner at 500+ Mph at near sea level, is that what you think? The real problem here is that its impossible to fly an airliner at 500+ mph near sea level. and this assumption about speed, is a cornerstone of the argument for the identical gashes in the sides of the WTC towers, & not to mention the total penetration so as to effectively disappear the "aircraft" .... given that you can NOT fly any airliner at extreme speeds & so low altitude, it completely discredits the whole "FLT77" story.
I'm not going to spoon feed you the numbers, go look up the difference in density for air at 30,000 ft as apposed to 1,000 ft & below.
When are you going to understand that just because you write something doesn't constitute as "evidence". You want to prove something, provide evidence as your own thread title states.
This "claim" has been debunked over and over. Using the logic of this claim, high-speed fly bys at air shows never happen. His claim that parasitic drag prevents Flight 175 from flying (it was desending to crash) at 560mph is crap because we know Egypt Air 990, another Boeing 767, went faster at lower altitude, so it can be done.
Doesn't make any difference....the engines made enough power to go that fast,and the aerodynamic structure ensured it could.....
Controlled demolitions can be done too, as can false flag attacks, media deception, political intrigue, conspiracy, murder, grand larceny etc etc.
If you're going to throw out BS numbers to support your delusions,you'd damn well be ready to spoon feed them to us as well as burp us afterwards......
The only difference being, you have no proof that any of your evidence is valid. Thermite?...none. Explosion?...none. No-planes?...None. All the evidence debunks what you believe to be true. Also, attempting to compare an apple to an orange gets you no where.
but you have no evidence, thats why no one believes the "official" investigation, not only does the emperor have no clothes but the skin drafts are falling off as well.
Thermite - plenty Explosions - plenty No-planes- Never said there was. And YOU KNOW IT. This folks is how disinformation agents and the disciples of the Talmud play the game. They LIE OUTRIGHT.
before the mud gets just 2 damn deep ....... Would somebody PLEASE explain to me how seeing an airshow fly-by that is at some unspecified speed except to say "WOW its going SO FAST" proves that "FLT11", "FLT175", & "FLT77" could have flown at 500+ mph so close to sea level? when the whole "hijacked airliners" story falls apart, then the administration will have lost its justification for "HOMELANDSECURITY" (etc.... ) ..... so all the people who just happen to like the idea of having UNCONSTITUTIONAL entities feeding off the public treasury will of course defend the story that provides cover for their pet Bureaucracy
An airliner bent on crashing into a building isn't worried about how fast it is going. There has never been a case in history where a subsonic speed aircraft has lost control due to the mere fact it was going too fast, unless it was subject to flutter or structural failure; something airlines are strongly built against. Your idea that an aircraft diving towards a target would in some way just stop accelerating because of air density is the stupidest assumption I have ever heard. Get a clue. Air is denser at sea level but that doesn't mean it starts acting like water for **** sake. Egypt Air 990 almost broke the sound barrier on its way down and it had both its engines turned off. UAL175, AAL11 and AAL77 were full throttle when they hit. If you want to learn more about why your claim is absolute bogus read here. http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/282962-vmo-absolute-aerodynamic-limit.html Now, back to the thread topic, you were going to present some evidence I believe. We're 17 pages in, are you going to present evidence any time soon?
You probably need to prove first they couldn't fly that fast according to wikipedia,flight 11 was travelling at 465MPH flight 175 hit at 590 MPH.
Picture this ..... You are driving on the open road, absolutely nothing for miles you decide to see how fast your car will go, you put your foot down, and observe that you accelerate to 90 or so, and then observe that it takes a good bit longer to get from 90 to 100, and maybe not even getting there, maybe the acceleration stops at 95 ... or? truth is that for mechanical systems there are finite limits. The idea of "FLT175" hitting the south tower at 590 mph .... REALLY? The whole hijacked airliner fiasco was an invention to justify violating citizens CONSTITUTIONAL rights, first at airports and then everyplace.
According to this FAA Type Certificate Data Steet the highest limited on a Boeing 767-200 is 420KCAS below 17,000ft, which is Vd (Dive Speed). Which means: 420 knots is 483MPH So we know a 767 was designed to handle up to 483MPH, however this does not mean that the moment you go over this speed, the aircraft will instantly brake up. Examples from China Airlines Flight 006 and the Hijacking of Federal Express Flight 705 show that airliners are built with remarkable amounts of structural strength well above what its upper design limits state. Both the aircraft listed suffered immense structural stresses well above their design. Both survived. Both continued to operate for another 20 years. In that the latter one still operates today.
Flight 175 came in at a dive,chuckles....fact it would have missed the tower,had the 'pilot' not corrected at the last instant..... As for your 'car' lets strap a couple of Rolls Royce turbofans to it and see how fast it goes...downhill I might add.
