Ex-Trump Adviser George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty in Mueller’s Russia Probe

Oh yes there you go again Deep State, Big Foot, Ancient Aliens from the planet Kapustastan.

 

The Deep State exists

You just cant see it because youre blinded by hate for trump

 

No I do not gate him, I just have no trust in him.One can say that you are blinded by your blind love for Trump so you ignore his faults.

 

Really? Did you read the opening post by @PARTIZAN1 ?

 

No. I see this:

The HOT TAMALE!

 

Like the man said, you get what you pay for

Libs are mounting 24/7 assault on the pesident I voted for and the result is entrechment in return

You leave us no choice but to either give up or continue fighting till the last dog dies

 

Another lying to federal agents charge. Gosh, when I read the headline, I thought they must have got him for a conspiracy. As an agent working for trump that would involve trump working with putin to win an american election!

It seems these special investigations mostly end up with people lying to the feds. So where is the conspiracy between trump and putin?

Well, I guess the trump hating crowd get some satisfaction, although it is akin to a dry hump, IMO.

I am still waiting for the money shot, where this investigation proves itself as something more than politics, dirty politics. I figure we will never see this investigation amount to much more than once again, some people lying to the feds, or old crimes from years ago, prior to working for trump.

That has defined these special investigations. They are driven by politics, and nothing more than that...dirty, obscene, vulgar, politics and scumbags in DC choose to wallow amidst the whale sh*t at the bottom of an ocean.

Get back with me with you have some meat on the bone, some substantial charges, that takes into account why this investigation was supposedly run in the first place. And if none ever come up, then that will show all of us that I was right about this from the outset. A farce. A waste of taxpayer money, and little more than theater, but also IMO, a corruption of justice. For you can indict a ham sandwich and the FBI can always get people for lying when they set out to so that.

 

Just because you thought that the FBI was charging Poppadapoulos with conspiracy does not make it so. He was charged with lying to the FBI.

Trump has not been charged with conspiracy with Russia ( Putin) so why are you defending Trump. Wait until Trump is charged if he ever is.

The investigation is not over so wait before you defend Trump against something that he may not be charged with.

 

I never thought any person would be charge with anything but the "usual". Lying to the feds. It always happens, perhaps because even you could get charged for such an offense. And myself.

You know these things are politically driven, right? And that is why they are "special". In that our regular justice system cannot act in this manner, and go fishing.

I see these things as nothing but political farce, with huge, vicious, teeth. A fishing expedition, a justice system gone political. You know it, and I know it. I think it turned into that when bill clinton was gone after. And has been like that ever since.

These things should run like an ordinary criminal investigation, and not given a pasture the size of texas to look around in. It should have been about a conspiracy between trump, his campaign and the state of russia. It should have been limited to that. That they are not, shows us what these things are. Outside of how our justice system operates normally.

This is what you see in 3rd world sh*t holes. Or places like communist china and the old USSR. I reeks of that kind of gov't. This is not our normal, constitutional justice system at work. It is a corruption of it, and a destructive farce, an insult to justice.

So far not one single charge of a conspiracy with putin, with the russian state. For it never happened. And people in power already knew that. IMO. Which is why Greenwald tried to war the losing team, not to get their hopes up. He saw what it was too. It has been obvious, and these things are all the same, since clinton was put through the wringer.


Real crimes go on in DC all of the time. No one looks at that. These are distractions away from the pay to play crimes that plague this gov't. Provides misdirection for the real crooks. And the partisans eat it up like a hog at the slop bucket.

 

I have not seen nor heard the Libs attacking him. What I have seen is the fact that Trump attacks the media and calls them " enemy of the people". I dare Trump running around pulling security clearances from former officials based on political revenge.

So who is the attacker here !

 

It is easy to claim that the Constitution was violated but what specific part and who specifically was injured by an alleged Constitutional violation ?
Who?

Has anyone been sentenced without a trial ?

Has anyone been denied their Constitutional rights to a defense?n

 

It is the size of the pasture, these special investigators are given. When I was suspected many decades ago, of selling cannabis, ( I never sold even a gram, only smoked it) the way the law worked is that the search warrant had to be very specific. If they found something, not listed on the warrant, I could not be charged for having it, even if illegal.

So, a very defined pasture. Is this what Mueller has? ha ha. Hell no, he can go anywhere he wants to, even charging manafort for crimes done long before he joined trump's team.

So when I was suspected of selling cannabis, they could not do to me as Mueller has done to those people. And that is because our system of justice does not operate in that manner. Only when it comes to a special investigator, investigating a president! So, it is out of the realm of what you and I could be subject to, or anyone else in this nation. That you find this not at all odd, is the problem. IMO.

Hell, if you were put under this kind of investigation, chances are, if they dug deep enough, they could charge you with a crime. And they could get you on lying to the feds with no problem at all. The bar is very low for that. One bad recollection? Charged!

And so, this is a farce and an insult to our traditional justice system. It is politically driven, no doubt about it. If not, it would be very specific, and not be the size of texas in scope. They are looking for crimes, any crimes, over many years. Nothing to do with a conspiracy with russia, and it never was about that, IMO. It is just whale sh*t politics. Began with Clinton.

 

The lib media are incompetent fools or the biggest liars in history

Take your pick

As for security clearances no one outside of government is entitled to a security clearance

The president decides who needs to have the ability to pillsge our national secrets and who doesent

 

The innocent might need far more protection than the guilty. Cops do not invite you over for tea and cookies. They intend to jail you. They earn their pay by jailing you. They will tell you they want just the guilty. As a human, they can say that, but officially they plan to jail you.

So talk to cops at your own peril. A lot of innocent are in jail due to them talking to cops. Papadopoulos and others going to jail went due to them talking to cops. If you do not talk to cops, you can't get charged with perjury.

OK, since you no longer will talk to cops, who do you talk to? You talk to your attorney and he talks for you to the court.

 

That hook includes General Flynn, Papadopoulos, Manafort, Cohen and anyone else vaguely associated with the President. This is likely the most shameful time in American history since the Democrat segregation laws. This Witch Hunt is destroying people's lives and reputation but the left really doesn't care.

 

Busted for lying and you would think by this time those people knew better than to talk to the cops. Well known lawyers /professors of law tell us over and over, do not talk to the cops. They are not inviting you in for a chat. They have a crime to solve and when talking to you, depend on you to self incriminate. Do not talk to cops. When you feel you must talk, talk to your lawyer and then the court.

 

Blinded by love for Trump but you can't see the Deep State? Despite all the firings, demotions and open investigations?

 

The Deep State has at least made them an example for anyone thinking about working for trump in the future

Sort of like the Mafia sending a dead fish to someone as a warning

 

They just Believe and will only look for evidence, no matter how nebulous or unreliable, to support those beliefs. And their followers will also overlook or deny facts in order to defend their beliefs also. It's TDS and is real as any other mental disorder.

 

I think brennen is even more inconvenienced by losing his clearance than we suspect

Now his moles on the inside face criminal charges themselves if they reveal secrets to him

 

Both Trump and Flynn trusted the DOJ and FBI following the election which is why Flynn talked to the FBI without a lawyer present and Trump retained Comey. Of course this proved to be a disaster for the country and, as the WSJ suggested prior to the Inauguration, Comey should have been fired immediately.

 

The Deep State has been acknowledged at least since Eisenhower's fair well address. Few still deny the obvious.

"But cheering for the CIA and its shadowy allies to unilaterally subvert the U.S. election and impose its own policy dictates on the elected president is both warped and self-destructive. Empowering the very entities that have produced the most shameful atrocities and systemic deceit over the last six decades is desperation of the worst kind. Demanding that evidence-free, anonymous assertions be instantly venerated as Truth — despite emanating from the very precincts designed to propagandize and lie — is an assault on journalism, democracy, and basic human rationality. And casually branding domestic adversaries who refuse to go along as traitors and disloyal foreign operatives is morally bankrupt and certain to backfire on those doing it."

THE INTERCEPT, The Deep State Goes to War With President-Elect, Using Unverified Claims, as Democrats Cheer, By Glenn Greenwald, January 11 2017.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11...-elect-using-unverified-claims-as-dems-cheer/

 

Of course it was more similar to speculation in the past but now it's being openly exposed. The country desperately needed new leadership and Trump has proven to be the right person at the right time.

 

Conservatives and Republicans have had to learn the hard way that the secret police/spy agencies are not their little friends.

“While restraint such as these have come and gone over the past half century, a more formal and enduring body of curbs on political and social movements in opposition to the status quo has flourished in the form of a system of political intelligence immune to changes in political climate, judicial scrutiny, executive or congressional control. Largely extralegal, autonomous, and clandestine, this political police system has monitored dissent with ever increasing intensity since the end of World War I.” The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980. p. 3.

Liberals and Democrats are about to have their memory refreshed for them.

 

Trump openly challenged the corrupt bipartisan ruling political class and has driven the Deep State into the open.

"This is the faction that is now engaged in open warfare against the duly elected and already widely disliked president-elect, Donald Trump. They are using classic Cold War dirty tactics and the defining ingredients of what has until recently been denounced as “Fake News.”

Their most valuable instrument is the U.S. media, much of which reflexively reveres, serves, believes, and sides with hidden intelligence officials. And Democrats, still reeling from their unexpected and traumatic election loss, as well as a systemic collapse of their party, seemingly divorced further and further from reason with each passing day, are willing — eager — to embrace any claim, cheer any tactic, align with any villain, regardless of how unsupported, tawdry, and damaging those behaviors might be."

THE INTERCEPT, The Deep State Goes to War With President-Elect, Using Unverified Claims, as Democrats Cheer, By Glenn Greenwald, January 11 2017.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/11...-elect-using-unverified-claims-as-dems-cheer/