Fact Check: Kamala Harris Didn’t Send 1,500 to Jail for Pot. It was 2,000

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No doubt.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kamala also kept people in jail so she would have a cheap source of labor.
     
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    You are a socialist as well so - why are you complaining about others being socialists ?
     
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    I saw that post - note that the exact same arguments I made in relation to pot also apply to the above issue. When someone has no respect for the rule of law and principles of justice in one area - it is silly to expect them to respect these principles in other areas so the above is not surprising.

    This is likely the tip of the iceberg - there are probably a raft of other violations. I have a very low tolerance for this kind of thing - we either have principles that we follow - or we do not - even in areas where we disagree.

    For example - I agree that women in the past were marginalize and were subjected to abuse in the past - this does not mean I am going to just throw out the rule of law with respect to "innocent until proven guilty". Even if I personally think someone is guilty of some crime - I still think they should receive a fair trial.

    Look at the Slick Willy/ Lewinsky affair. Just because I think Slick Willy was morally wrong - does not mean anything is justified on this basis. Adultery is not a crime. I have stated this numerous times and never gotten a legitimate response "What did Lewinsky have to do with White Water" ?

    At the time I was somewhat of supporter of Clinton - primarily due to the fiscally conservative actions at the time. Conversely - I am not a supporter of Trump - other than I was glad he won over Clinton - the Lesser of two evils I guess. That I don't like the guy does not change the fact that I do not support Which Hunt and violations of the principles of justice against this person.

    People need to stop flip flopping on principles when it suites their personal bias. Either we respect a certain principle or we do not. Yes there is some grey here in some extreme circumstances - "Torturing the whereabouts of a nuclear weapon from the terrorist who knows where it is for example" - but not because someone got caught (probably in many cases via an illegal search which compounds the insult to the founding principles) with a bag of weed.
     
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    Stalin style.
     
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    As of now, who is your preferred candidate?
     
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    Kamala just isn't ready for prime time.
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    Does she still have her bong?
     
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    There is is little to choose from on the blue side (either too extreme, too nutty, too partisan or just too stupid) so the bar is pretty low. I am anti Establishment so that further limits the field.

    Gabbard is my choice.
     
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    Looks like the NPC's on the view aren't happy with Tulsi.

    They are implying she's a russian hack.

     
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    And they are attacking her for meeting with al assad.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Ha maybe one of the debate moderators can ask her next time.

    She sure broke up a lot of families.
     
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    maybe you think you could substantiate that slanderous remark?
     
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    Sure - Do you not like roads, infrastructure, clean drinking water, police, our military and do you denounce all the other things paid for by wealth redistribution ?
     
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    Is it just me or is 2000 "over 1500"? I would have to rate it "Mostly True."
     
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    You don't want her downplaying the number of people she put in jail for pot, do you?
     
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    It is not wealth redistribution to pay taxes for things we all need and use. All should contribute. "To those who need from those who have" that is your Marxist model of Socialism. Don't make excuses for it.
     
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    So you are saying she performed her sworn duty as a member of the California judiciary???The police arrest them she and her office prosecutes them!!!No evidence of guilt they walk,proof of guilt they face the penalty their state legislature has inflicted upon that class of crime!
     
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    No, and that was exactly why Tulsi Gabbard gutted harris.

    She was the AG, she set the tone for prosecutions in California-and she went above and beyond.

    She even kept prisoners longer than she had to (do ease overcrowding) because she wanted their labor.

    Like a modern slave owner, which is not unlike her own families legacy of slavery.

    To make it worse, it disproportionately impacted minorities.

    Think of how many families she broke up.
     
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    Pray tell me how an AG or a prosecutor can go well above and beyond what the law dictates???Are you telling me that every defense attorney walking into a court in California to defend a paying client was incompetent??
     
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    Its still apparent to me that you don't understand what the california ag is.

    SHE set the tone for what was acceptable in California courts.

    And SHE decided to leave inmates in overcrowded jails (against a new law) so she could use them as slave labor.
     
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    Of course it is wealth redistribution. It is taking money from one person and using it for a collective purpose.

    Don't tell me what ideology I hold when 1) you have no clue what my ideology is and 2) you don't even know the basics yourself.
     
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    Very few prosecutors champion early releases and most of them try to put people in jail. It’s kind of the nature of the game. I am not a big fan of Harris or prosecutors in general. But after that she became a Senator and now she’s a politician running against 20 other people for the nomination. The fact that the Trumpists are all savaging her now is a good indication that they are really scared to run against her.

    To me, it isn’t the positions or campaign promises that are really important in a primary with so many contestants but how she will hold up when it gets down to the real deal. So far, she got in a pretty good attack on the leader and hung in there under a blistering attack in round 2. Any of these candidates could conceivably become great and effective leaders and that includes Trump.

    In that position, (POTUS) it is more about the ability to get both sides working together and compromising to move forward. It is also important to surround yourself with quality people who are more interested in what’s good for the country instead of people who will use their position to create money making opportunities for theirselves and their cronies. Trump could change directions and do that or any one of those running against him could.
     
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    That would generally be a plus for someone running in a GOP primary. When did you guys start getting so warm and fuzzy regarding prisoners rights and releasing people early because of overcrowding?
     

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