Faux compassion is only worsening homeless crisis

No it isn't. It's like including the guy struggling to pay his rent, but actually paying it.

 

Too much government for me.

For the disabled, there is no shortage of aid available and attorneys advertising to help get it for them. For those who want to better themselves, there are programs to help them. The biggest factor, IMO, is motivation. Human nature is to take the path of least resistance.

 

Nope, its the hopeless drug addicts who finally turned it around.
The ones who might have been sent to the PF island. lol

 

Says YOU. And that is cuz we are just that kind of people? Bullshit. You haven't a CLUE what you are talking about.

 

One of the big problems in the Los Angeles area is that undocumented migrants who came from Mexico took those jobs.

 

My position comes from growing up in LA and working with organizations that provide for the homeless. Do you have something other than a tantrum to refute my post?

 

That's rather old fashioned thinking harking back to a time when parents cared about their children, families stuck together, neighbors helped each other and personal responsibility was totally expected..We've moved on since then.

 

There us a program called housing first. It can eliminate long term homelessness.

But the GOP hates it

 

In fact there are a lot of easy answers, and they've been known for centuries, but there is no leadership. That area in Vancouver, Hastings and Main, was once 'downtown' for the east side and the Balmoral Hotel was a respectable place to stay.

But rather that have hospitals for the mentally unstable, in the 1960's they released them into the public, one reason being that these people (it was the dawning of the age of Aquarius and Ken Kesey) had a right to their freedom. So rather than have a clean bed at night, a steady and healthy diet, medical assistance, and park like surroundings, they're now forced to live among other people with serious mental problems, drug addicts, prostitutes, violent offenders, and so on. What was once a rather small group of vagrants in an isolated area is now blocks long.

There must be more facilities for those with mental health problems rather than have them living on the streets, but no one in the government has the courage to act, often out of fear of being accused of 'warehousing' people.

 

In America Reagan did that

 

link to related thread:
When Liberals can't even solve homelessness, how in the world are they gonna solve other issues?

 

Yeah I responded there. Thanks

 

The government owns most of the land and if they were to release more of it housing prices would drop dramatically. Same with zoning laws.

But lower housing prices have been viewed as a 'calamity' and 'crisis' rather than an opportunity for ppeople and it is in the interest of home owners, and governments who depend on taxes, to keep the costs high. Release property from government restrictions and every working person could afford a home. Of course that would destroy the business of many speculators who rely on zoning and rezoning to make their money but society may benefit over the longer term.

There is no government program that can ever eliminate long term homelessness.

 

Salt lake city and other cities have already eliminated long term homelessness.


Housing First

 

Is that the most effective use of money to try to solve the problem?

 

I believe it is one of several programs that can be very very successful

 

I'm still concerned about value for the money.

We're not going to be able to solve big problems if we don't use each dollar in the most effective way.

 

Getting people off the street is very good value. The most expensive way to house people is in psych hospitals, jails and emergency rooms

 

How much of that money is going to get siphoned off to bureaucratic and administrative expenses?

Is it really the most effective to house them in very high price areas?
Why can't services be offered for them somewhere cheaper?

 

I guarantee some will.

 

Like where?

 

There are lots of parts of the country that are cheaper.

 

So moving people against their will?

 

A weekly bus service could be provided for them if they want to move back.

(and even that bus would be far cheaper than the cost of rent in those expensive areas)

 

It has been tried as a discharge plan from psych hospitals. It was ruled illegal and the director was fired

 

Well then, no wonder liberals aren't able to solve the problem.
They rule out any answer that isn't perfect enough, and as a result they don't really have any answer.

I've read of homeless housing plans falling apart because the designed living accommodations weren't considered good enough.
They said it wouldn't be "humane" enough (even though sleeping in cardboard box is hardly humane). And so they never got around to doing anything.

Seriously, these people won't fund any housing plan that involves anything less than giving homeless people their own apartment complete with kitchen, two rooms, and personal toilet.

I don't see why it has to be an all or nothing. Especially since they cannot afford the "all" for all the homeless, it seems apparently.