FBI Has 'Overwhelming' Evidence to Indict and Convict Hillary

Not what I ask. I and others have already pointed out the condemning evidence, at the least disqualifying her from ever dealing with out nations national security, very very probable criminal. I asking you what further evidence would it take to convince you? What are you holding out for that you don't already know?

And what more would it take to convince there has been? What more would it take just to show you there was gross negligence?

What evidence is it that would exonerate her from what we DO KNOW?

You keep making statements as if we KNOW NOTHING.

Hardly, I simply choose not to play dumb.

 

Depends on what you mean by NO action. Action by WHOM? Legal action cannot be taken until that investigation and recommendation so what action do mean and by whom?

 

And you are willing to put our national security in jeopardy over that? Nice choice the Democrats are giving you there. And just imagine how much influence peddling she can engage in as PRESIDENT instead of putting personal interest and personal gain before the interest and security of or nation.

 

There are some that are demanding she step down from running for president. they are nuts.

 

I don't think she'd be a threat to national security...especially compared to the alternative of Trump!

My hope is that once she's president she'll be more concerned with her legacy...once she's reached the top of the mountains hopefully she'll focus on being a good president.

 

Wrong, Gross Negligence, is all needed to show a crime. No intent required. But then the fact is she intended to have ALL her OFFICIAL information be sent to a server she knew did not meet the security protocols without regard to security classification nor did she send classified information over a secured SCI server but did so on her private server by all intentions.

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What do you believe the mishandling of classified information through gross negligence is called under the law?

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And even if true that mitigates the acts Clinton engaged in how exactly?

 

Evidence of actual classified material that would put our country at risk. There is none, so it's really not that big of a deal. The emails that have classified information she claims is info that shouldn't be classified, which means it's probably not information vital to our security or our military's security. You should be on her side. She wants more transparency.

There wasn't gross negligence. That would require, like said above, highly classified information that would put our country at risk and that highly classified material being sent to people that shouldn't be seeing it. Unfortunately for you, that information currently does not exist.

She doesn't need to be exonerated. She's not guilty of anything.

You do know nothing

You're usually wrong about everything you say. Especially when it comes to legal action.

 

No, but to say, based on what we know right now that Clinton's acts are worse than Petraeus is ridiculous. Unless Clinton has some extremely sensitive material in her emails, it's a non-issue. They'll just say, don't do it again.

 

republicans reclassify emails after the fact doesn't make it a crime

let Hillary go through and reclassify republicans emails.... after the fact

 

The State Department designated 22 of her emails “top secret” – the first time it has deemed any of Clinton’s emails to be classified at a level that can cause “exceptionally grave” damage to national security if disclosed.

There was some extremely sensitive material in her eMails.

 

Agreed, if intent mattered, any moron who leaked secrets could say they didn't mean it.

Thats not a good enough answer.

 

You are doing the dance of the leftist.

 

I think people that think Hillary is completely innocent, need something like this:


Prosecutor: Mr. Chappelle, what would it take to convince you that R. Kelly is guilty?
Dave Chappelle: Okay, I'd have to see a video of him singing "Pee On You," two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four or five of my buddies and Neal taking notes, and R. Kelly's grandma to confirm his identity.
R. Kelly's Grandma: That's my Robert, always peeing on people.

 

You have no clue what those emails entail. Hillary does not think they are classified and should be released to the public. Obviously she didn't think they were that sensitive. This will all amount to nothing.

 

Sidney Bidmenthal. I have no doubt that Hillary gave him access to classified information.

 

You have no doubt based on absolutely nothing

 

Of course not. They're top secret.

Of course she thinks that. She might be in trouble otherwise. But Obama's State Department (which, unlike Hillary, doesn't have a vested interest) disagrees.

 

"Top Secret", 2 of which were classified "Top Secret/Special Access Program" and Hillary thinks they shouldn't be classified? Fascinating theory.

 

Hey, 'Sherlock', what about the email with classified information that she created HERSELF? Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html

And even that's going on the assumption that you and the other Hillary defenders are more-or-less right in saying that she was unfairly slammed with a total change in security classification status after-the-fact (which is not true, and you probably know it but need the self-delusion to keep your hopes alive....).

But don't worry! Be happy, all of you Democrats! Hillary is never going to see the inside of a courtroom over this! Your wonderous Führer Obama issued a decree on March 11th telling all your deep-pocket "donor class" to support Hillary and for poor, old honest Bernie to go away. Everybody (EVERYBODY) connected with this incredibly L-O-N-G, drawn-out "investigation" works for guess who...? Obama the Magnificent!

Justice? That's for "little people" who hold security clearances and who must observe all the pertinent laws and protocols related to them or risk being stripped of their "tickets", charged with crimes, sent to prison, and hit with devastating fines. I worked in that world, and I held two TS clearances. You don't EVER cut corners, you don't EVER break the rules, and you damn sure don't EVER LIE about it!

But, hey, I wasn't a big mucky-muck in Obama's extremist Libocrat Party, either. Hillary could be caught murdering a blind child on the Capitol steps and today's "situation-ethics" Democrats would simply change the subject and look the other way....

 

In some cases. But "gross negligence" isn't mere negligence; it's basically "I was so negligent it was the same as intending to allow classified information to be leaked."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_negligence


Prosser and Keeton describe gross negligence as being "the want of even slight or scant care", and note it as having been described as a lack of care that even a careless person would use.


That's a high bar to reach. If Clinton showed even the slightest care regarding the handling of classified material, it wouldn't be gross negligence. And indeed, her emails show such care -- they are full of references to sending information via secure channels rather than open channels. On the face of it, there doesn't seem to be a case for gross negligence.

We've been over this. You are simply wrong on the facts. Her private email was a stand-in for her equally unsecure state.gov email address. It was never intended to handle classified information, any more than her state.gov email address would have been. She handled secure information securely -- by accessing it in her home SCIF, or her office SCIF, or via secure fax and other things. She didn't apparently use secure email, but that's because she's something of a technological dinosaur -- she used hard copies and other old-school methods instead.

 

If POUH didn't think that they were sensitive then why did she respond to the staffer that alerted her that they were marked classified by telling the staffer to remove the header and send them to her unsecured private server??

Of course she gaveSidney Blumenthal whatever he wanted. He went to Libya to make a fortune by using POUH's position to his fullest advantage. Sidney should be picked up off the street and water-boarded.

Based on POUH's forceful push to have Sidney as her left-hand man as he had been for years and the fact that she allowed him to go into Libya on the mission to steal the gold from the teeth of Libya as it died.

POUH was the ****ing SoS> She swore an oath to protect this country to the best of her ability. POUH being the smartest woman alive and almost as ugly as Mooshell,, don't you think that she should have known at a glance that the information should be classified??

This is accidently adding bug poison to baby formula at the factory - they are both white powder - this is national security and POUH did not care because she didn't want the Republican Congress seeing what she ws doing behind the curtain with Sidney and others.

Is that is where you held the Bush team? I guess if we hold POUH to that standard we can see why she looked at the intelligence on Iraq and then voted to invade? She is a total bumbling FOOL??

Was her state.gov email server in a private home and unattended?

It is true that there just aren't any emails from her or to her on any secure server - - BECAUSE THEY WENT TO HER PRIVATE SERVER. She erased 30K of them but didn't get them all.

The ugly old hag will not be president no matter what 0 does to help her and Trump will have her tied.

 

Or she thinks it because that's honestly what she believes. You'll see when nothing comes out of this just how classified those documents were.

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Uh oh... "Top Secret"!! Now she's toast, lmao. You still have no clue what was marked "Top Secret". She'll be fine unless they were military secrets that put our country in jeopardy.

 

Why do you keep claiming "markings" are relevant to ANYTHING? The law has repeatedly been shown to you that "markings" matter not a twit.

 

BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THEY CONTAIN IS SO HIGHLY CLASSIFIED EVEN THE FBI, DOJ AND IG DID NOT HAVE CLEARANCE TO VIEW THE CONTENTS. And show me where Clinton has made such a claim about these 22 emails.

 

When it comes to classified information, intent is irrelevant, but you people know that and still don't care that she's a criminal...