FBI recovered 11 sets of classified documents in Trump search: report

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. He better be right
     
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    Lol. I've never ever said any different.
    There's no reason to be surprised.
     
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    Lol. It has nothing at all to do with Biden.
    He's not even involved.

    That's why it's your conspiracy theory.
     
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    If you, admittedly, don't pay attention to what I say why are you wasting both of our time responding to my posts?
     
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    Either there's an EO you're referring to, show it. Else you're wasting everyone's time.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still don't understand my point, so I won't bother reposting the ones I have. Besides, you already made it clear you don't pay attention to what I say.
     
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    Sure.
     
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    Oh Brilliant! So tell me, if the FBI planted the evidence, 1) how is it Trump claims he "declassified" them, and 2) why did he say he wants it all back? LOL!!!!!!
     
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    Trump is talking abou the boxes he had, the FBI will plant something that goes beyond what Trump is talking about. The FBI will plant something thats so secret (like US nuclear war red lines, or current acceptable limits regarding China action against Taiwan) people will not care what Trump says.

    The FBI lies, thats whay they do. Now they tailor their lies to suit thedemocrats.
     
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    Planted. LOL. While the security cameras were watching the FBI.
     
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    Don't be naive. The FBI is evil, but they are not that stupid.

    They took the boxes away, did not inventory the contents at the scene which they were required to do. In the privacy of an FBI office somewhere a document will be put in a box, and later "found".
     
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    I am not naive.
    I don't fall for conspiracy theories and post them on forums for all to see.
     
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    All protocols matter no matter who is president or what the issue is. Again, the president has to abide by the laws of the land just as every other president, except Nixon, and now Trump, has done. Every, and I do mean every national security advisor and intelligence officer who has handled these types of materials has called Trump's "Vulcan mind declassification" technique a bunch of bunk, period. Trump has tried to claim executive privilege before he was president, and that was rejected by SCOTUS, and after he was President, which too was rejected by SCOTUS. He hasn't even tried to, at least not yet, to challenge the search warrant. At best, he will get a special master, if the argument is right. But even that special master cannot determine what is and what is not an executive privilege. That has to be done and specified, in writing, what is and what is not executive privilege.
     
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    Does NDI mean anything to you? NDI is national defense information. These can be sources and methods in which we obtain our defense intelligence, among other things. Another problem is that some had SAP, or special access projects, which are totally controlled by the government and are extremely compartmentalized where no one person knows all the details.
     
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    you can carry on about your protocols All You wish until you show them and how even the executive who's in charge of whether they exist or not is not in charge of that you don't really have a leg to stand on
    okay which laws are there that say he must follow some sort of protocol that he's not in charge of to declassify documents?
    Show this protocol you really want to exist for the purposes of this stupid little hoax. Or you have nothing.
     
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    Well, for starters, I have pretty much done that with the numerous links I have provided on what the protocols are and who it is applied to. I even did with documents that are labeled TSSCI. So, I don't repeat myself. It is up to you to find those links, read them, and then get back to me. But my guess you won't do that at all even if I did provide the links in this post.

    Second, there are numerous laws as outlined in the search warrant and in the NARA letter to Trump's attorneys. Read them for yourself

    Third, you may want to look at Nixon v GSA or Trump v Thompson for starters. These are the two most relevant supreme court cases out there in dealing with ex presidents who held government material.

    EO 13526 is another example of government regulations and that EO is still in effect until the president rescinds the EO. Trump has not, thus, it is in effect.

    Finally, you may want to look at Article Two, Section Three, which states, "He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

    The "Take Care" clause in section three is the key. The take care clause is not only faithfully executing all laws in the country, but it also means that all laws apply to all who live here and are under the authority of the Consitution. That means he has to obey said laws too and cannot pick and choose, even when he is a private citizen, especially when government documents are concerned.

    So stop with this BS of yours and actually read and understand for once. Again, every national security advisor in the past five-plus administrations said that what Trump did was not how it works, not even the standing order of declassification. That is just an excuse just as you are an excuse, period.
     
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    Again you haven't done anything there is no law you're making it up.

    A previous executives order does not bind a current executive.

    No executive ever looked at the office has to obey the previous executives orders so you haven't done anything because there is nothing.

    You made up some procedure just to try and legitimize this hoax.
     
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    If as some claim, trump declassified all documents at his house, why did this happen?
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    Agents needed to get special classifications to view the documents that many here have claimed were all declassified.
     

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