Fed boosts plan to inject billions into the US economy

Your saying selling arms is Iran's fault?
This from a country that sells arms to anyone with a dollar?
Give me a break.

“These casualties were the result of explosively formed penetrators (EFP), other improvised explosive devices (IED), improvised rocket-assisted munitions (IRAM), rockets, mortars, rocket-propelled grenades (RPG), small-arms, sniper, and other attacks in Iraq," Robertson said.

Not to question your source, but weren't we fighting Sunni insurgents during the surge?

Most of the deaths occurred during the surge in Iraq, when President George W. Bush pushed thousands more troops into the country to deal with the sectarian civil war boiling over between Shiite and Sunni groups.

American personnel in Iraq faced off against highly lethal bombs, like the EFPs, which were allegedly manufactured and supplied by Iran to Shiite militias across the border in Iraq.

And yes, it will be a long time before I forgive Bush for that war.

 

Iran set up camps and trained terrorists. They gave them the best equipment and manufactured weapons spefically to kill Americans. They are responsible for one fifth of all our dead. Obama, knowing this, gave them a ton of money to fund even more of this. Are you seriously blowing that off?

The surge was against all insurgent groups. The majority of Iraq is shia so not surprising

 

Exactly. Trump was never involved in the deal because it was Obama and Kerry, President Trump was not even in office yet.

and Time magazine gets it completely wrong, once again. It was not for jets, it was for aircraft parts, contractors and military equipment which means they could be nonlethal, meaning not weapons and the money was from the former regime which means the money never has to be returned. It was also $400 million, not $1.7 billion that Obama negotiated with Iran. What an idiot, we froze $400 million and he gave them $1.7 billion to get hostages released. Since Iran was killing Americans all over the world, including in Iraq, the money never had to be returned.

Iran was continuing their nuke program anyway and this money gave them a huge boost as well as terrorist organizations a huge boost. Obama and Kerry were such foreign policy idiots, that Iran just ran all over them. Reminds me of how Obama worked closely with Putin in this deal. So Iran got money, Putin got parts of Ukraine and American tax payers got royally screwed and murdered.

The agreement was defunct because it was a former administration we were allies with.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-se...cash-to-iran-after-initial-payment-1473208256

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/inside-the-ring-obama-era-cash-traced-to-iran-back/

Sadly:

As it was making the January cash delivery, the US also imposed new sanctions on Iran over its ballistic missile testing. At the same time, the White House unfroze a larger pool of Iranian assets, estimated at $100 to $150 billion, as part of the nuclear deal, though administration officials cautioned that Iran would only pocket about $50 billion after legal claims.
Legal claims are one of the reasons the payment to Iran was controversial when Obama first announced it. The Clinton administration had agreed in 2000 to pay that $400 million to Americans who had won lawsuits against Iran in US courts.
These families and individuals had sued the Islamic Republic for damages after the deaths of loved ones or for being the victims themselves of Iran-backed kidnappings or terrorist attacks. At the time, US officials told those families the money would come from Iran.
With Obama's announcement, it became apparent that the payments had come from US taxpayers and not from Iran at all.

Obama used American taxpayer funds to pay off Iran.

 

So Iran is justified in killing Americans, according to you.

 

They still won't, if Democrats hold the house it will be their fault, if Democrats have the ability to stop legislation it will be their fault, even if Democrats are completely wiped out in 2020 they will blame them for having any say X number or years ago.
If Republicans have taught us anything it is that they are the victim and are never at fault for anything, ever.

For a recent example see 2016 to 2018 — they still blame the democrats or ignore that time period completely.

 

Trump was involved in the deal, he ended it and said he would replace it with something better, still waiting

 

I know that, you know that.
The bankers who make money hand over fist through highly over leveraged risky bets know that too. But they aren't letting their hundred of trillion dollar pyramid derivatives blow up either, because they are the shareholders of the FED, which they created, and works for them.

 

The other side of the story....

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/irans-involvement-iraq

 

It is the healthiest economy on the face of the earth at the moment and some of the chief indicators point towards a continuance.

Then you add in the market expansions into China and South America.

 

Other side? No where in that link does it dispute irans involvement. No where does it say theyre not killing our soldiers. Its just giving the reasons why they are. Well no crap, i could of told you why. How does that change things in any way? They are responsible for killing a fifth of all our dead, over 600 US soldiers. And Obama awarded them by giving iran over a billion more to keep doing it.

 

In economies, things very rarely ever simply achieve some kind of idyllic 'plateau' and then stay the same. And when an economy is "stimulated" to blast off on a trajectory that goes almost straight up, non-stop, for over ten years -- because of little but "stimulus" from a bunch of central banks in 'the West' pumping up money supplies, buying hundreds of billions dollars in toxic trash "paper" and "bonds", while they keep interest rates near zero, what is the likely inevitable next step...? Yeah....

So, the only thing that central banks can do now is to keep on doing the same things they did before -- provide "stimulus", buy bonds, and crush interest rates, EVEN THOUGH DEMAND FOR CASH IS ENORMOUS, and DEBT of all kinds continues to spiral out of control!

At some point, this one-trick pony isn't going to be able to pull off any more 'miracles', and at that point this exercise in fraud and 'house-of-cards' bullshit is NOT going to end well....

 

not hardly, we are right on the verge of a 1929.. only worse due to all the debt

 

Now that everyone's savings is classified as simple capital structure, should end real well.

 

They sold them arms. Just like we do.

Did the US support Iraq in the Iraq Iran war?
In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks.
US and British Support for Hussein Regime

https://www.globalpolicy.org › iraq-conflict-the-historical-background- › us-...

 

Trump had nothing to do with pallets of cash sent to Iran in exchange for hostages. He was a private citizen. lol

 

The nuclear deal. Please keep up.

 

Trump had nothing to do with pallets of cash sent to Iran in exchange for hostages. He was a private citizen. Iran has always been trying to get nukes, even when Obama and Kerry made him that ridiculous stupid deal. It was more like Iran feeding those two idiots their asses because any fool could see Iran was duping those morons.

Just like when North Korea duped Bill Clinton. They never stopped researching and working towards a nuclear weapon. They just took the aid and laughed in his face.

But I get why you side with Iran. Your position is clear.

 

They didn't just sell them arms. They trained them, supplied them, and manufactured ieds spefically to kill our soldiers. You may be ok with that, but the President of the US sure as hell shouldn't be. He also shouldn't reward them with a sweetheart deal and over a billion to kill more of our soldiers with.

If the lefts standards were the precedent under Obama, this alone would be grounds for immediate impeachment.

 

Ahh, the conspiracy theories again.
The rest of the world is wrong in the fact Iran was in compliance with the nuclear deal and Trump was right.
I bet you think N. Korea is going to give up it's nukes too.

 

Reflecting on just ONE defect in the Obama/Kerry "Iran nuke deal, have you on the mindless-Left already forgotten the FACT that your "Messiah's" wonderful deal FORBADE INSPECTIONS at ANY site in Iran that Iran -- UNILATERALLY -- declared to be a "military" installation...?!

So, where's a crafty, intelligent Iranian going to go to conduct all his nuclear R&D...?! But it was beyond imagination that Obama, Kerry, or any of the other idiots who were parties to this 'agreement' would even think about this.... The Democrat position always was that "a bad agreement is better than no agreement at all"... and history is FULL of examples of why that kind of thinking is beyond STOOPID!

. "Yeah, no sweat, Neville -- we Nazis promise to 'play nice'...."

 

Was there a ban on R&D in the agreement? I don't think so.
How about those new centrifuges they have spinning again?
Good job Spanky.

 

lol - says ronv who is always long on opinion and short on the facts.

Trump wasn't even President when Obama sent pallets of cash to Iran but it's all Trump's fault. lol

 

Oh, I see. Trump ends this 'agreement' farce and so -- THEN -- the 'centrifuges' that the inspectors KNEW about started spinning?

And what verification was there that there aren't/weren't thousands of others (and much else, too)...? NONE?!

Precisely because the Obama/Kerry 'brain trust' agreed to let the Iranians completely sequester all their self-designated 'military sites' from any kind of inspection, no one has known, or has any real idea at all what they were 'spinning'! But the Iranians were laughing and boasting about how they completely fooled Obama and Kerry less than two weeks after this hoopie 'agreement' was signed!

Google, "iran will not allow inspections at military sites", take about a half-hour to read even a handful of the stories that speak directly to Iran's deception and duplicity, and then stop embarrassing yourself!

 

I literally proved everything i posted. You haven't refuted anything, only made excuses why killing our soldiers isnt a big deal apparently. And the leftys accuse the trump supporters of blind loyalty

 

And before you forgive Hillary and Biden for supporting that war?