Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment

He's trying to find any way to make it sound like Trump wasn't correct, within his authority, and got his travel ban implemented despite the Lefts interference.

 

He modified it because he knew scotus would reject it otherwise. Perfectly clear to me.

 

The court would have granted Certiorari on the first EO.

 

No, the Special Counsel does not require the consent of the Senate. His position is not one that is subject to the advise and consent portion of the US Constitution.

 

I think it does.

 

The current iteration of the travel ban before the Supreme Court is the third version. Trump refused to continue attempting to enforce or defend the two previous iterations.

Sure, they would. And Trump did not give them that opportunity because he recognized that it would lose.

 

You have zero reason for that belief, but you do you.

 

A second lieutenant in the Army does but this powerful office doesn't?

Explain please.

 

So why’d they change it?

 

One is the second lieutenant with the army and the other is a special counsel appointed by the person in charge of the investigation at the Department of Justice.

 

Non answer.

 

They are different positions. It is really that simple. If you think that they should be treated the same, despite being in wholly different portions of the government and subject to wholly different job requirements, then you should make the argument.

 

As I recall, it was only a 3.5 pager... shouldn't take him too long to realize he's spinning his wheels

 

*shrug* Well maybe one day you'll be able to afford it and then explain it to the rest of the class.

The point was that the Right uses the courts to fight policies they don't agree with just as the left does as well.

 

So if this one is liberal, then the one in Virginia is conservative then right ?

And what I hear you saying is that you don't really care about politics from the bench, as long as their conservative politics ?

 

Correct myself... 2.25 pager... there's an empty cover sheet counting as page 1 and the last page only has 1 redacted line plus 2 small paragraphs..

Read on, judge Ellis...

 

Oh ok, sure fair enough. I was thinking about recent examples like the Travel ban for instance. It is well within the Presidents power to suspend Immigration at his whim if he feels the nation is threatened...yet the left kept trying to tie him up in court on it.

This kind of thing is a waste of the courts time, but that's how they roll. Eventually, as everyone knew, the Travel ban was allowed to go into effect, because the President does have that authority.

The powers of the President are clearly defined in regards to immigration, and yet they made trump go to court over it. This isn't just fighting against a policy, but running deliberate interference.

 

I have no idea who the one in Virginia is, but Trump didn't win that state...so who knows.

 

I think in past times when Govts were .. less partisan, they would spend more time consulting their legal depts and the like while crafting legislation, so that when passed, most realzed that even if they didn't like it, it was still legal.

Now we've gotten to the point where Partisanship reigns, and legislation is passed regardless of the legality because all you sometimes need to do is find the right court to agree with you. Or, as you say, find the right court to stay it.

I agree it's gotten out of hand, but it's also only a symptom of the diseased political/legal system of the US.

 

Great points. But it takes two to end a conflict. When someone is attacking you, you are in a conflict the only question is do you defend yourself or allow the aggressor to win without resistance?

The Illegal actions by the corrupt Obama Administration and Hillary Campaign in collusion with the corrupt DOJ/FBI and CIA needs to be investigated and tried. Brennan is a liar that will stand before Grand Jury. These criminals horribly misused the authority we entrusted them with and they will be brought to account.


Senior DOJ Official: We Offered Nunes and Gowdy a Friday Meeting With Rat-Faced Rosenstein

 

The one in virginia is a Trump supporter who thinks Mueller is out to get Trump

 

Sounds like this one has their eyes open.

 

Again, your OK with "legislating from the bench" as long as its conservative then ?

 

Nope, the rulings have to be correct and follow the law, whether "conservative" or not.

 

I guess it's just a matter of perspective. I personally felt that Obama was one of the most attacked Presidents in my lifetime, and a lot of it for unnecessary stupidity, especially considering there were a lot of valid things to attack him on (his reticence to go after those Financial Institutions that caused the financial meltdown, drone strikes and killing of the US citizen without fair Trail, Killing Gaddafi and the Syrian Crisis, not closing Guantanamo, NSA spying, etc)

Those are easy provable, easily verified situations, whereas the ones you site are murky, without solid evidence, and in a realm of debate whereas the ones I site are historical fact.

But then you had Bush Jr and the 04 Dems who basically started the Congressional practice of obstruction that the Obama era Republicans refined into a fine wine.

I trace the majority of the Congressional problems to the over-reaction to 9/11 and the subsequent drawn-out quagmire of the Iraq War and the domino failures of middle eastern foreign policy since.