Feds to sue Texas to try and stop election integrity

In what appears to be a clear cut, politically motivated move to try and get more Democrat votes, even if they are illegal, the Feds wish to stop Texas from upholding the integrity of their elections. The outrage here is that Texas wants to be sure that you are who you claim to be prior to casting your vote. Since this helps uphold the integrity of elections, the Obama administration is against it. What a waste of taxpayer dollars by the Fed. Have they no shame when it comes to wanting more Democrat votes?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/22/justice-department-to-sue-texas-over-voter-id-law/

 

How about we attempt a fair and balanced approach here.

Both Democrat and Republican lawmakers know that voter ID laws do nothing to help or hurt the elections. In other words, they are just as harmless as they are useless. They don't prevent fraud. Nor do they prevent otherwise qualified voters from voting.

But why are Democrats and Republicans making such a big deal about it? Because low information voters actually think this (*)(*)(*)(*) is a big deal. Conservative voters are more likely to vote for a Republican who took the initiative by implementing this law. Liberal voters are more likely to vote for Democrats who opposed the law. In other words, it's all a big jerk-off fest.

 

Aren't most of the topics discussed on message boards big jerk off fests? LOL

 

There is no excuse not to have a voter ID law.

Even the UN was amazed people didnt have to show ID to vote.

United Nations observers are shocked at Americans casting votes without showing ID

 

A day in the life of sec

awake at 3AM, drive to airport,
show my id at the ticket counter
show my id to get on the tram
show my id to enter the security corral
show my id to the tsa gal
hop on plane
go to the AVIS counter, show my id to rent a car
pull up to the lot security gate, show my id and contract
go to hotel, show my id to get a room
lost my room key, show my id to get another
go to bank to cash a check, show my id
head over to get a paper notarized, show my id

long day, need a beer, I must be getting old, they didn't ask for my id

Eric Holder, where were you today because I showed my id a lot of times

 

Until the election process itself is fixed, no amount of ID crap will fix the "integrity of elections"

Fix election campaign fraud, Get corporate America OUT of elections, fix gerrymandering, get the two parties completely out of the voting process, insist on truth in advertising, THEN we can worry about the small chance that someone is voting I the wrong district.

Besides, the republicans have already admitted these laws aren't really about voter fraud, these laws are about making it harder for old people, students and minorities to vote..

But then republicans are only about hate anyway.

 

Everyone on welfare already has an ID card. I'm not sure what Democrats are babbling on about... unless they want illegal residents voting.

 

If there are so many fraudulent voters in Texas, why hasn't Texas CHARGED any of these MILLIONS of felonious voters with a crime?

Could it be they don't exist?

 

This illustrates the PURPOSE of voter ID requirements - to make it so only people like sec can vote!

The 85 year old woman who lives above me and hasn't needed an ID in 25 years, and would have to devote an ENTIRE day to getting one, along with spending money she doesn't have for the handicapped van, a helper to get her through the 2 hour wait at the DMV (often that long, even if you have an appointment), yeah, HER franchise is expendable because she is now that she is old and useless, she is a Republican's example of a "useless eater" who deserves no voice in the government anyway!

 

Until Texas secedes from the Union they're bound by Federal Law.

 

That's exactly what they want, they just won't admit to it.

 

Apparently that is what the Republicans want too, or they would be ALREADY be charging all these fraudulent voters they are supposedly trying to prevent with felonies.

 

Photo ID doesn't solve any problems, if anything it only complicates the voting system.

 

Explain? This is what happens at my polling place in California:

I get my voting info in the mail.
I show up on voting day with my ID and voting postcard in hand.
I go to the table for my district.
I show my ID.
Volunteer takes card and finds my name in the voter rolls.
I sign my name on the dotted line and get my voting form.
I vote.
I insert my voting form in the machine.
I give back my pen and get my "I Voted" sticker.

As far as I can see, handing my ID to the volunteer doesn't complicate anything.

 

It's photo ID that's the problem. By making it so only one type of ID is accepted, the process of getting it takes longer. Everyone needs it, and no one wants to go through the paperwork to get it.

 

Republicans are scared Texas is going Blue. So they are passing this and trying to play games with districting. Playing games with districting is much more of a problem then showing an ID. Like the second poster in this thread wrote, only low intelligence voters are going to care about IDs at the poll when party officials can draw lines that gerrymander and keep a state in the power of one party that does not reflect the views of the citizens.

 

There isn't just one type accepted. In my polling place I have seen driver's licenses, passport IDs, municipal IDs and state IDs. Granted, three of those cost money. The state voter IDs in most states are free. I'm sorry it might take some time to get, hell it took me 5 weeks to get my passport, but once you have it, you have it. If you make the voter ID also good for other ID purposes, you can kill two birds with one stone.

 

now this is really sad. about 90% of the population already has an id, so what is it about requiring id to vote that will make it take so much longer to get one? y'all seem desperate to find any reason to allow this avenue of voter fraud to continue. first it was about this fictitious minority suppression campaign and now it's just too much trouble and will take too long. how long is it going to take y'all to admit that you're afraid it will drastically reduce the number of democrats at the polls? it won't be because they can't get id but because they're already dead, too lazy, too stupid or simply never existed in the first place.

 

Look at the Congressional districts in Illinois then get back to me about gerrymandering. Districting isn't a Republican beast. It's a political beast.

 

I know, but let's think about it. Everyone is going to have to prove they're that person. Most common ID is going to a state issued one, a driver's license etc. Getting that license, and going through all the paperwork is simply time consuming, and unnecessary. In order to do so you're going to have to rely on non-photo ID. So why then is photo ID needed in the first place? You're literally using a form ID that had to be proven with ID that apparently isn't any good.

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Tell me this. How did you get your photo ID in the first place?

 

So why don't the Republicans prosecute all these millions of "fraudulent voters" they claim exist? Should be a cakewalk!

 

You mean the SCOTUS hat said that requiring ID's is not unconstitutional?

 

voter id is a sham, it's an attempt to deny minority and democratic voters their constitutional right to vote

alec is behind this push to disenfranchise people and take more power for billionaires and multinational corporations

[video=youtube;5Hmhdv_OSvA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hmhdv_OSvA[/video]

 

Here are some examples of what people have tried to do to get an ID that works for these voting rules, where even military ID and other things don't work!

There are huge numbers of additional people with the same problems.

If it is all so "easy", why don't the voter ID laws provide to do what it takes to hire the lawyers, do the research etc. that would meet the requirements the government wants to demand for official ID?

http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/page?id=0046