Feel Safe Now?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Seems some people think only teens use illegal drugs.
     
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    Feel Safe Now?

    I have always felt safe. The reason is that the nearest big city to me is more than 90 miles away.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a surprise it must be for those immigrants convinced our borders are open by feckless members of the POT to find thousands of border patrol agents trying to prevent them from illegally entering the country.
     
  4. ECA

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    I too have always felt safe. Even when I lived in South Boston for 7 years I felt safe. Now I live 31 miles west of Boston in a nice quiet rural town and feel just as safe. Biggest difference where I live now is it's much nicer with all the land and trees and wildlife and the quiet. Just so peaceful.
     
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    Some people make excuses for thinking it is OK for a hundred thousand people a year to die from fentanyl.

    A police chief in Florida was talking about spring break. He said that the majority of the deaths due to fentanyl was after they were already intoxicated from alcohol. I wonder how many of us would have been smart enough while drunk as a teen ager not to take some other drug that was offered to us.
     
  6. ECA

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    Who said it was ok people are dying from illegal drugs? Huh...I haven't seen one person say it's ok. Seems like someone is lying their a55 off.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe it is comments like these;

    "They also don't seem to understand the concept of supply and demand. The only reason illegal drugs keep flooding into the US is because people keep buying (demand) illegal drugs."

    When responding to comments like this:

    "Yep, maybe you can say they made a mistake, but you can't say they made a mistake without knowing the consequences. Kid or not, this is real life where making stupid decisions can kill you, and when you make said stupid decision knowing full well it can kill you, I really don't have much sympathy for you. Maybe for your family, but not for you. This is 2023, nobody can say they don't know hard drugs are dangerous. It'd be like trying to claim you didn't know cigarettes were bad for you."

    Sorry, if I misunderstood your comment. However, I strongly recommend you not call me a liar.
     
  8. DentalFloss

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    It's not 'okay'. But, if we stopped pretending like we were going to legislate and incarcerate our way out of a part of being human that is as normal as wanting a stiff drink after a hard day at work and made these things legal, that problem would go away overnight.

    Most of the drugs people are dying from taking one of are, ironically, drugs I take legally on a daily basis, that being some form of opioids, and xanax. Despite taking both of these for a long time, I don't now and never have gotten high on them, so I have nary a clue why people do them recreationally, but then again, my body needs them, so maybe there's not enough left over after soing their jobs to alter my mind, I don't know.

    However... And this is the important part... If of age persons could go into any pharmacy and buy these drugs, they would not have to worry about them being poisoned with fentanyl, just as I have absolutely no fear of that, because mine come from legit businesses.

    If we learned our lessons from Prohibition (and clearly, we did not), we would never have tried this nonsense in the first place, enabling cartels to become countries unto themselves, and entire inner cities to be war zones as this and that gang fight over who is going to sell at the corner of Wall and Broad.

    Telling people what substances they can and can't put in their own bodies does not stop them from doing it. It just drives it underground, feeds organized crime, and makes the very products themselves subject to alteration, fabrication, and flat out poison. We must, must relearn the lessons that we learned 100 years ago with the Prohibition debacle, and stop this nonsense, once and for all.

    I'm not saying, "Hey, kids, drugs are great, go out and do them after school!!" I'm saying simply that the "cure" is worse than the disease.

    Even North Korea has drugs, in a place where they will kill you, your family, and everyone you know if you get caught with them. Not even that sort of punishment is enough to stop it, how do you think we're going to when we're not even willing to go that far?
     
  9. fmw

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    Sounds like a good move. I really enjoy watching the deer feed in my hay field while I have my morning coffee. I've seen some very nice country in Western Mass. I lived in the near north side of Chicago a few blocks from the Playboy Mansion some time ago. But that was when the city had effective management. I felt safe there as well. I wouldn't live there today.
     
  10. Alwayssa

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    No, I simply used Rush Limbaugh against your argument. Nothing like negating your argument than using a real life example of a person whom you admire politically. But the point was not Rush Limbaugh, the point was that opiods is very real, and once Rush was caught being addicted, Rush no longer based addiction. Once one of his closest friends was diagnosed wth Parkisons, he no longer claimed Parkinson's as a fake disease as he did with Michael J Fox.

    What partisanship here. We are talking science, or in your case, pseudoscience.

    Neuroscience is used in psychiatry as well and is often used as a fundamental element in psychiatry. In fact, this is the way psychiatry is headed now with requirements to spend at least one year in residency with a qualified neurosurgeon when in residency in some schools. Again, you are outdated here.


    And they can have an effect on some of the "mental illness" such as addiction and other areas where psychiatry and psychology come intto focus with. In many cases, a good addiction program will have a team of physicians from psychologists to change behavior to psychiatrists and neuroscientists to make sure the medicine prescribed is working.


    Again, you are projecting again here. Want to try this again?

    LOL, are you throwing the gauntlet down right now? Or are you just thumping your chest as usual hoping to "scare me?"


    LOL, more projections.


    The only one who is bragging here is you. The more you are bragging, the less you say and prove yourself to me.
     
  11. ECA

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    It was a great move. There is a hay field directly across the street where the deer feed all the time. We've come home often times to find them in our back yard. Never gets old.
     
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    I didn't ignore it Fatback. I explained it. Understand the difference between explaining and ignoring?

    Want to know why drivers are so dangerous? Because we can give someone a driver's license in less than three weeks and our attitudes about driving is such that we have too many drivers who are prima donnas with road rage increasing in some parts of the US. That's why. And we don't have the necessary infrastructure where bicycles, motorbikes, cars, and big rigs can exist. There is always more than one person on the road who will think they own the road based on the type of vehicle they are driving.
     
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    It's been skyrocketing since 2015, which included the Trump Administration.

    Point is that illicit drugs will come whether we have a wall built or not, and in greater numbers because consumers are demanding such.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    Who cares if he visits the border? I just want him to take effective action to deal with illegal immigration.
     
  15. FatBack

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    You seemed to intentionally ignore my point that people behind the wheel of cars represent a far greater threat to you on a daily basis than a gun ever will
     
  16. Polydectes

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    Yes.
    and because you assume I'm a Republican.
    see what I mean. You didn't negate my argument I have compassion and still do for people struggling with addiction. How is never addicted to painkillers but I was addicted to tobacco and the only way I broke that addiction was psychology.
    false you even claimed you brought this person up because you assumed I admired him.
    I don't know enough about Rush Limbaugh to know about this.

    no you're not talking about science you're trying to and failing.

    you state what I stated in far more words because you're not eloquent and then you claim them outdated please try and make sense.


    [QUOTE,]
    And they can have an effect on some of the "mental illness" such as addiction and other areas where psychiatry and psychology come intto focus with. In many cases, a good addiction program will have a team of physicians from psychologists to change behavior to psychiatrists and neuroscientists to make sure the medicine prescribed is working. [/QUOTE] you're saying it's a middle disorder without saying it's a mental disorder.

    Psychologists seek to help someone change a behavior because it's a behavior pattern that causes suffering or inability to deal with everyday life that's the definition of a mental disorder. Why would you even have a psychologist involved if it wasn't A mental disorder?


    not really this is what people say when they don't want to take responsibility for their incorrectness.

    You just finished telling me about how behavioral specialists are involved in changing the behavior of a person who's addicted.

    You are contradicting yourself without even understanding how.

    Ignorance isn't a bad thing unless you insist on it in order to be right

    you must feel challenged because I called you out. Maybe it's because you're full of **** and I know.


    more avoidance.

    I called you out on posturing.


    People who think others are bragging without actually bragging typically suffer from inferiority complex.

    A good way to deal with this is get educated. You don't have to go to university or anything just read up on the basics.
     
  17. impermanence

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    Borders are open to deal with the demographic crisis that is going to create massive economic and social havoc around the globe [although the US is better off than most]. Instead of explaining to people what is taking place and then having a coherent plan to add population in a measured way, leadership in this country decides it a lot easier just to lie...and there's nothing better the corporate-state does better than deception.

    As populations urbanize and gain wealth, they seem to stop having kids [for many reasons]. With the birthrate below population replacement [2.1 per couple] in many, many countries now [and the rate of marriage going down, as well], you are going to have a situation when countries are full of older people with relatively few younger ones to work, consume, and support the old folks. Just look to Japan and China as the poster children for this crisis.

    Of course, there isn't a crisis that China doesn't have...demographics, water, pollution, de-globalization, food and energy dependence, loss of technology from the West, wages up 14x's since 2000 and manufacturing heading elsewhere, real estate bubble catastrophe, debt...

    ...the party is over for The Communist Party.
     
  18. Bullseye

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    Not exactly. But your LW masters will be proud of your loyal response.
    So we should just throw up our hands and let it happen? The REAL FACT is Biden's failing in his duty to control immigration and drug smuggling; and doing absolutely nothing to improve.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    End the insane "war on drugs" and we won't have a problem with illegal drugs coming across the border. Give addicts what they crave--it's cheap compared to spending $50 billion a year on anti-drug nonsense. We keep locking people up for drugs. It's f-ing stupid.

    Legal addictive drugs means we won't have dealers hooking people because the drugs are so cheap the illegal market will completely dry up. Stop with the idiocy of trying to tax them.

    Are you going to start taking heroin just because it's cheap?

    The "war on drugs" is the dumbest thing rightwingers have done over the years. Time to find a new shtick.
     

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