Feeling sorry for Trump defenders.

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have watched for months as Trumps media deflection team uncomfortably dodge questions about his statements and use sidelines to avoid actually answering for him....the latest being his attack on the Khan family for being in the DNC convention and calling him out. I seriously feel pity for these people and think they probably have one of the most difficult jobs in the world.

    I Hope he pays them extremely well.
     
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    A Clinton supporter feeling sorry for a Trump supporter, is a lot like a cancer patient feeling sorry for a patient with heart trouble. You have plenty of your own problems to worry about.
     
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    Why do Democrat trolls incessantly start these absolutely pointless and worthless threads? It trashes this forum with junk threads. Your OP for this new thread you started has NO substance whatsoever.
     
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    Just like how Trump attack John McCain for being not a hero because he allowed himself to be capture, here Trump is saying it is Captain Khan's fault for being killed.

    Plus, Trump and his surrogates refused to apologized that they support Russia to hack into USA.

    It is very clear Trump and his people are anti America.
     
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    Pointless? Nope. Just another example of what a POS Trump is.
     
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    Have read any of the threads put up by "logical1"?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting, as I am not so much a HillBill supporter as a Trump denier. But as usual any one not For him is automatically called a DemLiberalDumbass.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am NOT a Democrat....but, I think you just explained my thread better than I did.
     
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    It also indirectly violates Forum rules by claiming all pro-Trump posters are paid trolls., which is of course not true. Everyone knows Trump is too cheap to pay us; it's one of the things we like about him.
     
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    The only time Dems show respect for the military is when they can use it for political advantage, and IMO the only reason many Muslims serve in our military is for the same reason.

    One way Obama has depleted our military is by firing many of them for political reasons.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=UTF-8#q=military+leaders+fired+by+Obama+list

    List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama, Compiled By General Paul Vallely, 3(*)17(*)
    14
    Posted on November 14, 2014
    Source: Rense.com
    Thanks to S.
    Here is the list of our military elite who have been purged or fired under Obama:
    Commanding Generals fired:
    · General John R. Allen(*)U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
    · Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)(*)U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa
    (April 2013)
    · Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)(*)U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600
    people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
    · Colonel James Christmas(*)U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander SpecialPurpose
    Marine Air(*)Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
    · Major General Peter Fuller(*)U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
    · Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus(*)U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine
    Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
    · General Carter F. Ham(*)U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
    · Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.(*)U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy
    at West Point, NY (2013)
    · Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan(*)U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended
    Oct 2013)
    · General James Mattis(*)U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
    · Colonel Daren Margolin(*)U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
    · General Stanley McChrystal(*)U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
    · General David D. McKiernan(*)U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
    · General David Petraeus(*)Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander
    International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR(*)A] (Nov 2012)
    · Brigadier General Bryan Roberts(*)U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
    · Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant(*)U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S.
    Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
    · Colonel Eric Tilley(*)U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
    · Brigadier General Bryan Wampler(*)U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment
    Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)
    Commanding Admirals fired:
    · Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette(*)U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
    · Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)(*)U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic
    2012: What's the 'real' truth?
    To find out, I hold a finger in the breeze.
    7/31/2016 List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama, Compiled By General Paul Vallely, 3(*)17(*)14 | 2012: What's the 'real' truth?
    https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014...)by(*)general(*)paul(*)vallely(*)3(*)17(*)14/ 2/7
    Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct
    2013)
    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
    · Captain David Geisler(*)U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
    · Commander Laredo Bell(*)U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
    · Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch(*)Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    · Commander Nathan Borchers(*)U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
    · Commander Robert Brown(*)U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
    · Commander Andrew Crowe(*)Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
    · Captain Robert Gamberg(*)Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
    · Captain Rex Guinn(*)U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
    · Commander Kevin Harms(*) U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier
    Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
    · Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin(*)U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
    · Captain Owen Honors(*)U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
    · Captain Donald Hornbeck(*)U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego
    (Apr 2011)
    · Rear Admiral Ron Horton(*)U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific
    (Mar 2011)
    · Commander Etta Jones(*)U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
    · Commander Ralph Jones(*)Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
    · Commander Jonathan Jackson(*)U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier
    Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
    · Captain Eric Merrill(*)U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
    · Captain William Mosk(*)U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain
    (Apr 2011)
    · Commander Timothy Murphy(*)U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station
    Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
    · Commander Joseph Nosse(*)U.S. Navy Commander ballistic(*)missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
    · Commander Mark Olson(*)U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
    · Commander John Pethel(*)Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
    · Commander Karl Pugh(*)U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
    · Commander Jason Strength(*)U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
    · Captain Greg Thomas(*)U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
    · Commander Mike Varney(*)U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
    · Commander Jay Wylie(*)U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)
    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
    · Commander Alan C. Aber(*)Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
    · Commander Derick Armstrong(*) U.S. Navy Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
    · Commander Martin Arriola(*) U.S. Navy Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
    · Captain Antonio Cardoso(*) U.S. Navy Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
    · Captain James CoBell(*) U.S. Navy Commander Oceana Naval Air Station’s Fleet Readiness Center Mid(*)Atlantic
    (Sep 2012)
    7/31/2016 List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama, Compiled By General Paul Vallely, 3(*)17(*)14 | 2012: What's the 'real' truth?
    https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014...)by(*)general(*)paul(*)vallely(*)3(*)17(*)14/ 3/7
    · Captain Joseph E. Darlak(*) U.S. Navy Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    · Captain Daniel Dusek(*)U.S. Navy Commander USS Bonhomme
    · Commander David Faught(*)Executive Officer destroyer Chung(*)Hoon (Sep 2012)
    · Commander Franklin Fernandez(*) U.S. Navy Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
    · Commander Ray Hartman(*) U.S. Navy Commander Amphibious dock(*)landing ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
    · Commander Shelly Hakspiel(*)Executive Officer Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
    · Commander Jon Haydel(*) U.S. Navy Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
    · Commander Diego Hernandez(*) U.S. Navy Commander ballistic(*)missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
    · Commander Lee Hoey(*) U.S. Navy Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
    · Commander Ivan Jimenez(*)Executive Officer frigate Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
    · Commander Dennis Klein(*) U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
    · Captain Chuck Litchfield(*) U.S. Navy Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
    · Captain Marcia Kim Lyons(*) U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
    · Captain Robert Marin(*) U.S. Navy Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
    · Captain Sean McDonell(*) U.S. Navy Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL
    (Nov 2012)
    · Commander Corrine Parker(*) U.S. Navy Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
    · Captain Liza Raimondo(*) U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
    · Captain Jeffrey Riedel(*) Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
    · Commander Sara Santoski(*) U.S. Navy Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
    · Commander Kyle G. Strudthoff(*)Executive Officer Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
    · Commander Sheryl Tannahill(*) U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN
    (Sep 2012)
    · Commander Michael Ward(*) U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
    · Captain Michael Wiegand(*) U.S. Navy Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
    · Captain Ted Williams(*) U.S. Navy Commander amphibious command ship Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
    · Commander Jeffrey Wissel(*) U.S. Navy Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)
    Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):
    · Lieutenant Commander Lauren Allen(*)Executive Officer submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    · Reserve Captain Jay Bowman(*)U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ
    (Mar 2013)
    · Captain William Cogar(*)U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Mercy’s medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
    · Commander Steve Fuller(*)Executive Officer frigate Kauffman (Mar 2013)
    · Captain Shawn Hendricks(*)Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
    · Captain David Hunter(*)U.S. Navy Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal
    Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
    · Captain Eric Johnson(*)U.S. Navy Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training
    Center, IL (2013)
    · Captain Devon Jones(*)U.S. Navy Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
    · Captain Kevin Knoop(*)U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Comfort’s medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
    · Lieutenant Commander Jack O’Neill(*)U.S. Navy Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar
    2013)
    · Commander Allen Maestas(*)Executive Officer Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
    7/31/2016 List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama, Compiled By General Paul Vallely, 3(*)17(*)14 | 2012: What's the 'real' truth?
    https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014...)by(*)general(*)paul(*)vallely(*)3(*)17(*)14/ 4/7
    · Commander Luis Molina(*)U.S. Navy Commander submarine Pasadena (Jan 2013)
    · Commander James Pickens(*)Executive Officer frigate Gary (Feb 2013)
    · Lieutenant Commander Mark Rice(*)U.S. Navy Commander Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
    · Commander Michael Runkle(*)U.S. Navy Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
    · Commander Jason Stapleton(*)Executive Office Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
    · Commander Nathan Sukols(*)U.S. Navy Commander submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
    · Lieutenant Daniel Tyler(*)Executive Officer Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
    · Commander Edward White(*)U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
    · Captain Jeffrey Winter(*)U.S. Navy Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
    · Commander Thomas Winter(*)U.S. Navy Commander submarine Montpelier (Jan 2013)
    · Commander Corey Wofford(*) U.S. Navy Commander frigate Kauffman (Feb 2013)
    Since Barack Obama has been in the White House, high ranking military officers have been removed from their
    positions at a rate that is absolutely unprecedented.Things have gotten so bad that a number of retired generals
    are publicly speaking out about the ‘purg’ of the U.S. military that they believe is taking place. As you will see
    below, dozens of highly decorated military leaders have been dismissed from their positions over the past few
    years. So why is this happening? What is going on right now is absolutely crazy especially during a time of peace.
    Is there a deliberate attempt to reshape the military and remove those who don’t adhere to the proper ‘viewpoints’
    ? Does someone out there feel a need to get officers that won’t cooperate out of the way?
    Throughout world history, whatever comes next after a military purge is never good.
    If this continues, what is the U.S. military going to look like in a few years?
    Perhaps you are reading this and you think that ‘purge’ is too strong a word for what is taking place. Well,
    justconsider the following quotes from some very highly decorated retired officers:
    (*)Retired Army Major General Paul Vallely:The White House protects their own.That’s why they stalled on the
    investigation into fast and furious, Benghazi and Obamacare.He’s intentionally weakening and gutting our
    military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being
    purged.
    (*)Retired Army Major General Patrick Brady: There is no doubt he (Obama) is intent on emasculating the military
    and will fire anyone who disagrees with him.
    (*)Retired Army Lt. General William G. Jerry Boykin:Over the past three years, it is unprecedented for the number
    of four(*)star generals to be relieved of duty, and not necessarily relieved for cause.
    (*)Retired Navy Captain Joseph John:I believe there are more than 137 officers who have been forced out or given
    bad evaluation reports so they will never make Flag (officer), because of their failure to comply to certain views.
    A Pentagon official who asked to remain nameless because they were not authorized to speak on the matter said
    even young officers, down through the ranks have been told not to talk about Obama or the politics of the White
    House. They are purging everyone and if you want to keep your job just keep your mouth shut. Now this trend
    appears to be accelerating.
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...*)being(*)purged(*)from(*)theu(*)s(*)military
    7/31/2016 List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama, Compiled By General Paul Vallely, 3(*)17(*)14 | 2012: What's the 'real' truth?
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    General Vallely’s comment:
    Absolutely every communist regime on the planet did this as soon as they got in power. I am surprised this
    communist traitor with his feet up on our furniture in the white house hasn’t done this until now!

    SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? I am doing my part. How about forwarding this.
    Paul
    (General Paul Vallely)

    https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014...ama-compiled-by-general-paul-vallely-3-17-14/
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Trump promised money to Veterans but didn't write the check.
    Trump promised to pay the contractors that built the Taj Mahal but didn't write the check.
    Trump promised bond holders 14% interest but didn't write the check.

    Trump makes a lot of promises that he never has any intention of fulfilling because Donald Trump is a con artist.

    I also feel sorry for those that have been duped by one of the greatest con artists in American history.
     
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    Those of us who support Trump love that he is almost incapable of allowing money to slip through his fingers needlessly. This country needs leaders that respect the value of money, and the very real sweat and tears that went into earning much of it to begin with.
     
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    So you like being conned and find that to be an admirable trait.

    Wonderful
     
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    In truth, I couldn't care less whom you support. The operative point is that both sides of the aisle have plenty of their own problems with which to deal in this particular election, and whichever candidate you are against, the default opposite choice has their own set of major problems.

    FWIW, I didn't call you a Dem, Liberal, or a dumbass, but if you are denying being a Dem or a Liberal, I will take your word for it. The other option is not for you to say, and is instead up to the reader to decide.
     
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    What can they say? Trump is indefensible, so they just avoid it and attack Hillary.
     
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    Or that he pays them at all. His reputation for stiffing people precedes him.
     
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    His apparent objectives match mine, so I appreciate any skills he may be able to bring to bear to achieve them.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There's only a couple of minor differences between Bernie Madoff and Donald Trump. Bernie Madoff managed to rip off investors for billions of dollars more than Donald Trump and Bernie Madoff is in jail while Donald Trump remains free but deserves to be in jail.
     
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    I'm certain if Trump gains the Presidency our loyal Dems will try to keep him honest.
     
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    He won't let any money slip through his hands alright. If he gets in the position to sell us out to a foreign or domestic interest for a couple hundred billion, he'd do it in a heartbeat. His track record clearly indicates that.
     
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    Trump's objectives are the same as David Duke's and former president Andrew Johnson's (i.e. Absolute White Male Supremacy). Hopefully, for America, Trump doesn't have the skills to achieve that objective.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Trump is a crook and a con artist and there's no way that anyone can keep a crook and con artist honest. Trump hasn't been honest a single day in his life and he's never going to change.
     
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    You mean like they did to Cheney and Bush who stole trillions for them and their cronies while walking over the dead and maimed bodies of tens of thousands of US servicemen and civillains? Fat chance.
     
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    No he didn't, you liar, lol! It's fun watching how low you liberals will go.
     
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    Most of the "statements" are spun by the trump hating media. Same old thing, they take things out of context. As far as the idiot at the dnc, he is clueless.
     
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    LOL, poor feller. All you must read is Hillary propaganda. Goebbels would have loved you.
     

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