Feisty debate looms with Biden and Sanders standing center stage

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they work, which most of them do, they will contribute in some way. I’m not to worried about it. We’ll see how it all works out in a few years. As a proud Californian, I hope it does and that we soon get some workable immigration plan with a chance for many of those who have lived here for years to get a path to citizenship like millions already have here.
     
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    Oh? You no longer support the lying, lawless, deplorable scumbag?
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same here. I respect your opinion but disagree.
     
  4. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every day I wake up grateful to be alive and well here in good old California. I watch the sun rise over the San Gabriels and the Mojave. No place I’d rather be.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump did away with the conservatives individual mandate, dems did not want that either, it was to get republican buy in


    http://swampland.time.com/2010/02/16/health-care-republicans-oppose-their-own-idea/

    "In fact, says Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, the individual mandate was originally a Republican idea. “It was invented by Mark Pauly to give to George Bush Sr. back in the day, as a competition to the employer mandate focus of the Democrats at the time.”"
     
  6. Mrlucky

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    We shall see.
     
  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Illegals are a net loss economically. So are close to half of working Americans.

    Never-mind the cost to schools, hospitals, and the prison system.

    Democrats are actually done trying to represent Americans-they are the party of illegal aliens.
     
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  8. US Conservative

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    No Republican voted for the ACA and therefore none voted for the mandate.

    It set the democrat party back for years starting with the Tea Party and ending with catastrophic losses for the democrat party. (Wiki leaks shows dems understood this)

    Trump did away with it because it was a draconian mandate and therefore unpopular.

    In response, democrats in California mandated the same on all Californians.

    THEN they gave illegals free healthcare.

    Dems are the party of illegals not Americans.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are a good man Lucky. Most Chi town people are really nice down to earth guys. If the Pirates are still in the hunt I will be at Wrigley later this year for a 3 game set. To me Wrigley in September is heaven on earth. Italian sausage with peppers and onions on a soft roll with a big, cold beer. The Bucs are pretty mediocre right now, but only 5 games back. I love Joe Maddon and if the Pirates aren’t in it I always root for the Cubs. Cheers
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um hmmm....Thanks.
     
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    Yup we'd be cold not to play for global healthcare too !!!! Lmao
     
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    Some of us are thinking 50+ years down the road.
     
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    doesn't mater, republicans invented it, they are the reason it was there
     
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  14. US Conservative

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    We have to pay for health care for transexuals from mozambique before Americans.
     
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    I'm not sure the moderate lane is the way to go anymore. Remember, the fake president was and remains anything but center, and (with Russian assistance, admittedly) flipped traditional Democratic stronghold states. It is time for the Democrats to be bold and tread down the progressive lane, and do it well. The right candidate can and will clean up next year by speaking up against the orange fiend without holding back and by putting forward a credible progressive agenda that hits on the same points Trump hit on in his 2016 campaign as well as the points that need to be hit on in 2020. The traitorous, bullying, womanizing clown has nothing of any substance he can even campaign on. His joke of an administration is a complete failure outside of extremist circle-jerks and the Faux News echo chamber.

    Personally, I think Kamala Harris more than anyone else would verbally pants the moron on any debate stage and accomplish what I've set out above.
     
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    The fact that there are very few democrats in congress that voted for it suggests you are wrong.

    Not even 1 republican voted for Obamacare.
     
  17. US Conservative

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    We shall. This isn't a normal political cycle.
     
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    yes, cause they did not like that it benefited the people, they have yet to come up with anything better

    now had it got a public option, that would of been great, though I think private care is gonna start hurting with some many eating a bad diet nowadays, lets let it crash first or republicans will blame it on universal healthcare

    republicans know this high sugar (carb) diet Americans are eating is gonna cost a ton

    "Trump Official Says Diabetes a Preexisting Condition Not Worthy of Coverage"

    https://insulinnation.com/living/tr...t-a-preexisting-condition-worthy-of-coverage/
     
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    Nothing beats a Cubs game at Wrigley. You are right about Chicago's Italian sausage too. I also love Chicago style hotdogs, gyros and of course Uno's pizza. Can't get any of it around here except Uno's but it's not the same as original.
     
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    Definitely, but I don’t think it’s a knock out yet. But he has to do better than that.
     
  21. US Conservative

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    If it benefited the people it wouldn't have lost dems at the polls, and we wouldn't even be talking about free healthcare for illegals before citizens.

    Dems are the party of aliens.
     
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    Well hopefully this debate will allow us to dump out the leftovers from 2016 and earlier. Biden and Sanders are both DONE. They lost their primaries because they had weaknesses in their appeal that the winners exploited. They still have them in 2019. Its time for Dems to move on and look towards someone else. If you want an establishment moderate, find one not named Biden. If you want a progressive, find one not named Sanders. They are both huge risks against this incumbent president.
     
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    Don't forget the Italian beef.
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    As if any Trump supporters care about the debt!

    Wait - I remember. You ignore the fact that Trump is exploding the debt, but it will REALLY matter again as soon as a D is in the White House.
     
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    There was a corner deli a block from where I grew up. We got the best Italian beef on fresh bread there, nothing better along with a big dill pickle from his barrel.
     

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