Fellow Atheists: Do you claim no god exists, or do you simply lack belief?

That is a good thing, now you know that you are not the only one that is noticing that attribute of yours.

 

I have already said that I believe y'all's God was an alien who tinkered with hominid dna to create modern humans. Then tried to destroy us when things didn't work out. I believe memories of the aliens are the origins for modern religion.

I have no evidence for these things. It is pure conjecture, and I believe it because it amuses me to think that is what happened.

 

They just made a movie about that, called Prometheus. http://www.prometheus-movie.com/prometheus-trailers/

 

You should claim that it was revealed to you by an angel of some kind. Then you could start your own religion

 

Even Santa hasn't had time to practice your new job restriction yet so until then,I'm calling it goal post move.

Actually MDF, they were horrible examples because as I mentioned, it wasn't just their physical restriction,it is their inability to do their job without detection. Santa Clause represents the man doomed to my fireplace hell until he gets a different job description and the necessary wiki change that you have not updated yet. When you see Santa in the shopping mall and if he asks you if you have been good,tell him to go to hell,and then pee on him and that it doesn't matter because you have taken the "naughty or nice" part of his judgmental soul away from him on political forum.com to try an win an argument.

What about leprechauns, ghosts, demons,etc..., they would have been better examples for you to use and you should have. Of course you don't have to restrict yourself to Santa,which is precisely why I used Rstones infamous invisible pink panda as a suggestion for you the next time you want to successfully mock God. But you didn't, you picked the two physical legends of the world that had a requirement of them to live up to, one that makes them who they are.

..and for your careless selection,

You have failed indeed.You have failed to mock God successfully in your first post and you have fail our beloved Santa Clause by trying to put restrictions on his entitled wrathful coal attempt. You have also failed any self-respecting atheist that knew to stay away from the Santa and tooth fairy argument. You are guilty of the Santa/toothfairy fallacy.(Which reminds me that I also have a wiki page to write/edit)

You are flailing..

 

What are you talking about? Santa does exactly as I said. I've spoken to him myself.

But they can do it without detection as I just said.

If you have a fire he wont come, everyone knows that.

um... ok...

But I've defended them entirely.

Not at all.

I disagree.

But he doesnt leave coal.

Well I'm not an atheist, LOL

Fond of inventing fallacies are we? LOL

Yep, because the one you referred to is incomplete.

LOL Whatever helps you sleep at night dude.

 

Well, good luck with that. Pastafarianism is your dream come true. Everyone thinks, correctly, that such jack assery is just that. Enjoy your faith ... which is not faith. But has no evidence .... because it doesn't need any ... because atheism is actual apatheism. Athtarded.

Wonder why ANYONE would walk away from that?

 

Your Santa in an impostor.The real Santa that we all know and love, gives gifts and sometimes coal to those unfortunate delinquents. He's been around before you and I were even born MDF.

I wasn't making that up, I'm going off a post you wrote several months ago, if I'm mistaken then what are you,agnostic ?

It has to be done since you are slandering the loving and occasionally, wrathful Santa that we all know and love.

 

Santa seems to be pretty popular in this thread for some reason.

Though I suppose it would be important to note that Santa is a perfect example that when told from a position of authority it is highly probable that people will suffer from a mass delusion.

 

Well, that explains why only atheists are having issues with proving Santa is not real. Apparently, atheism is highly suggestable to mass delusion when authority is involved ... wait, Stalin ... hmmm ...

 

You can prove that Santa isn't real? Please, continue..

 

I'm an atheist but I don't really make a big deal out of it. I don't like when people try to shove their believes down my throat so I don't return the favor. I do like to discuss Taoism though. But I don't believe it is something that works for everyone.

 

Yep, Santa claims to live in the North Pole. Given this fascinating, modern we live in, we have mapped the entire North Pole, and there is no Santa. Indeed, he cannot live underground ... because there is no ground. There is no logistics tale that feeds his estensive toy factory (and as a military man, trust me when I say its impossible to hide that much stuff), and we have mass reports of parents admitting they made it up.

Yet an atheist is not convinced is he? Funny.

Proceed with arguement from absurdity.

Or, you could read this:

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf

It addressed exactly what atheists are doing here. One wonders why atheism is so often on the wrong side of academics?

Hint: Becuase atheism is not a logical process.

 

The Pope. Hmm....
Pat Robertson. Hmmm....
Joel Osteen. Hmmm....
Charles Stanley. Hmmm....
Creflo Dollar. Hmmm....
Mom, Dad and your local pastor. Hmmm.....

 

You're being overly literal. Living "at the north pole" doesn't mean he's smack dab on Geographic North Pole. There is land up there - northern Canada and Greenland are in the area. That will be where Santa is. He also clearly has ways of not being detected.

 

You're very good at arguing against yourself.

Like some horrible magician believing he's actually tricking his audience you now suggest proving a negative is so absurd one would have to be a fool to use it as an argument.

Atheists have no problem rejecting the existence of Santa because there is no evidence to suggest he does yet this perfectly obvious and intelligent perspective is instantly refuted when it comes to God.

The fact that you seem oblivious to your hypocrisy is no longer surprising.

We've already agreed that ideology religious or otherwise is very dangerous. You have yet to admit that religion is the most dangerous of all ideologies because it comes from an ultimate authority.

Stalin may be able to kill you for not following him but God will never stop torturing you for all eternity.

As for the overall purpose of my Santa post I was simply providing evidence that mass delusion is not that hard to achieve and even very probable when taught from a position of authority.

You can't possible tell me that God isn't the ultimate authority.

 

The entire area has been mapped. And he doesn't claim to live in Canada or Greenland does he?

And so begins the arguement from absurdity.

Guess you didn't read something else, eh? We have just abandoned logic ... in order to support an atheists inability to figure out why Santa is not real.

 

And yet, here you are in the middle of atheists using arguements from absurdity to do just that.

What you are NOT doing is examining the evidence provided for God, his claims, and actually disproving God. You are using the guilt by association fallacy to compare God to Santa, and then vaccuously getting pissed when someone points out they are not the same and that your are simply being fallacious.

Does God claim to live at the North Pole? Does he claim to deliver toys every DEC 25th? Do parents admit they made up God after certain transition from childhood to adulthood? Does God claim to fly around on reindeer?

Nope.

So, My guess is that atheists such as yourself are simply angry that they were duped about Santa and children and have decided that they will never again by fooled in such a painful manner. Therefore they deny everything so as never to be wrong again! Because being wrong is the worst thing that happen to an atheist!

Atheism ... its PTSD.

 

How would you know what Santa claims? You only know what other people say about him.

We know Santa exists. He dictated a memoir a few centuries back. It's contained in the Voynich Manuscript, but only I can decode it.

 

What a Grinch you are....

 

Hang on, this thread is titled to "fellow atheists", but do I detect a few voters who say they're not atheists? What's the dealio?

 

The people who walk away from it were probably more concerned with joining some fruity little club rather than just accepting the lack of evidence for a deity. Those who walk away must have found some mysterious piece of evidence which proved God. Or, maybe they never really understood such sophosticated concepts to begin with.

 

Agh, so know you speculate rather than accept the actually stated reason. Let me remind you again:

#1 - Atheism has no proof. Its just a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)rs with either arrogance or anger problems who insist that it is the truth. That plays out all the time right here on the forum where atheists cannot decide whether atheism is apatheism or atheism?

#2 - A look at the inconclusive evidential record reveals startling probabilities. When one puts aside anger, derision, ego, and self worth through comparative trite and accepts standards based accounatbility ... atheism is left with ... well, the evidential record is not EXACTLY 100% Everything else is just poor behavior.

#3 - I asked for and recieved proof. It is role that the Holy Spirit fills. Its not reproduceable, but it is real.

And why would I stay atheist? So I could randomly jump into an internet forum and insult people because they rebutted me? So I coudl sepculate about their decisions and disreagrd what they are telling me? So I could involve myself in the great apatheism vs. atheism debate so I could determine whether or not I was actually saying anything when I talked? So I could feel smart by putting other people down? SO I could turn my back on my professional education and evidence and claim Jesus is a Myth to hurt people for no reason? So I could ignore everything but a few sentrences to claim that ONLY I, and a few like inded individuals, were ACTUALLUY against slavery and rape? So I could sue people for daring to pray (because recriminating legal battles are fun? - Especially when you lose repeatedly?) So I could leave my sins there unrecognized and unrepented? So I could sleep with random women and rationalize it as good? So I could think I have all the answers and never listen to anyone? What?

Why chose atheism at all? Honestly ... not standard atheist propoganda, which falls apart when examined.

 

Whatever reasons you have are your business. The only reason I remain with the Church of Atheism is because there's no God.

 

It's still not a choice Neutral.