Fifth consecutive poll shows national majority support for same-sex marriage

Ah, so only your version of Christianity is right.

Well, guess what? This the USA, and we believe in freedom here. Your religion does not get to make the laws for everyone.

 

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Of course I am aware that 'the laws' on planet earth can go either my way or your way on any given day. And so be it. So whether the laws here represent God's truth or Satan's lies will depend on who rules the day (Republicans or Democrats...generally speaking).

That's not to say I don't care which way the law goes here, because whichever way the law goes makes for either a good or evil society. But I'm more concerned with the life I and others will live forever after we leave planet earth. Thankfully, for me it will be forever according to God's truth and I'm looking forward to it. I wish it could be the same for all people, but I'm not naive enough to believe that everyone desires the truth.


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So as a Christian, you should be able to quote Scripture?

Tell the forum what Titus 3:2 says....and how you live by it?

 

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Titus 3:2: "To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men."

I don't have to speak evil of evil men, all I have to do is reveal what they do and their own actions speak the evil for itself.

And....can I quote Scripture (speak for God)? You bet:

Jesus says: "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me." Luke 10:16


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OK, so everyone who doesn't believe as you do is evil?

 

With all due respect to your beliefs, I hope you realize that what you believe and what your beliefs are based on consist of a "close circle," otherwise known as "Circular thinking."

Here is a graph to illustrate what you're doing:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...qnsmOoeoURGqE7Yn7-qapZB85yqLYZw-th5dFb6YmJ6ik

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Well....basically yes. I believe what God in the Bible tells me, for example, he tells me that homosexual behavior is an abomination, calling it a vile affection. So I consider it 'evil' to disagree with that (God's truth). What say you? (Now don't go 'interpreting' the Bible to say just the opposite of what it says)

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YES! Whatever God says I believe. But remember, I also believe you have a right to reject God and his teachings. God gives us all the choice to live with him forever....or not.

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Another trick. These homphiles have nothing to do, then play tricks to find a justification to love them!
Did I ever complained about someone is having sex in front of me?
Get lost.

Option to be on the run whole my life?! Laws forcing me to be around homos at work, school, college, neighborhood and other social places are FEDERAL. NO ESCAPE!
I can find a temporary solution, for a while, place with lowest homo population, but you never know when you come after me with your "rights".
So far, pros vs cons are in favor of SF. Most homos are concentrated on Castro, I definitely stay away from that place. And there is 20% of them, while others are normal.
Let's say, if Santa Cruz county will be "strightland", of course I will move there, since this place will be secure from these "gay rights".

PS. I copied the link, next time you or someone will ask me over and over, why I am in SF, I will copy paste this one.

 

I just looked at your signatures- seems that we aren't the only people you hate. And yes, this is the United States- if we have to live with bigots, you have to live with us too. That's the way it works. Deal with it. We're not going away.

One more thing- if no one is having gay sex in front of you, then why do you care about what we do? It's none of your (*)(*)(*)(*) business.

 

Are you kidding me?
Do you know ANYTHING about Santa Cruz County?
If you did, you would NEVER even mention it as a potential "straightland!" Santa Cruz is the most liberal city in all of America, and it is SUPER GAY FRIENDLY. . .has been for over 25 years!

It is a wonderful place, full of diversity and acceptance, full of intelligence and consciousness.

Although. . . I'm not sure that their acceptance would go as far as including someone who doesn't hesitate to make such hateful, bigoted comments!

 

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"It is a wonderful place, full of diversity and acceptance, full of intelligence and consciousness."

Santa Cruz County....full of SIN! LOL




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I say that you have no right to try to control me with your beliefs which I do not share.

 

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You are right. I'm not trying to control anyone, just telling the truth, and you have every right to reject it.

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That's what your'e asking gays to do. And honestly it's not that difficult, there are many countries in the world where homosexuality is prohibited, especially "open" homosexuality. You just chose to live in the USA where you've been "on the run" from the scary old homosexuals, complaining about them being near you when they have every right to be exactly where they are. If you're the one with the problem with them, you can move or deal with it.

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Honestly that about sums it up. If one can't agree that there's a problem with that flow of logic, then we'll never agree on anything.

 

Well, I do respect your faith in God, and I too have a strong face in ONE, UNIVERSAL AND INDIVIDUAL God.

However, I do not have much faith in the Bible being the "literal word of God!" In fact, I believe the Bible is nothing more than the interpretation by MEN (and I mean men, no women there!) of what they THINK God wants. . . And at times, only what they, themselves would like.

So, I prefer to go directly where I know I find God, within my own God given conscience, within God's creation around me. And when I go there, and follow my conscience, really follow it, even if it is not where my human desires pull me, even when it is contrary to the teachings of the Bible and other man made dogmas that all religions try to make us believe are "God's wishes for us," I feel perfectly in piece and in harmony with God.

It is the reason why I do not believe that homosexuality, or at least the love between two people of the same sex is against God's will. I do not believe that the love between two men or to two women is any less pleasing to God than the love between a man and a woman. But that, when there is no love, when there is ONLY lust and self interest to fulfill a basic instinct by USING the other person in a couple, then that action is just as displeasing to God, no matter what the sexual "equipment" of the other person happens to be.

And I do not see God as a severe, demanding and revengeful God, but as a God of love, compassion, and understanding, a God with a sense of humor and even with a sense of pride and respect for his creation.

I do not believe that God would ever reject one of us because we are made to fall in love with a man or with a woman. . .no matter if we ourselves our men or women. God is not "petty" or prejudice, those are defect associated with men, and it seems that the more petty and bigoted men are, the more they need to turn to a all encompassing belief in the Bible, because it seems to give them permission to continue with their pettiness and bigotery.

There are obviously good men who are deeply religious, but those people do not just take the "teachings" of the Bible without checking in with their God given conscience and they use their God given free will to make decisions that are in harmony with their conscience, rather than to struggle to fit the interpretation of God's wishes by men who have been dead for thousands of year, and who were obviously limited by the knowledge of the time and their own manly limitations (such as greed, anger, need for power, cultural norms and mores).

God doesn't make mistakes, and HE/SHE/IT doesn't reject HIS/HER/ITS creation.

 

It is your truth. It is not mine, and I do not believe it is God's truth either.

You find your truth in the work of men, who have projected their own truth on GOD for thousands of years. I prefer to look where I know God has created the truth, within me, and within every one of His creation. . .if we stop to look for it, instead of just grabbing the imperfect truth of men's interpretation of God.

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You see, I think your remark there says it all!

It is men's judgement of other men which is sinful.

 

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Sadanie, I appreciate your clearing up your position on this matter.

Well, nothing could be more clear than that you do not accept The Word of God as God's Divinely Inspired Truth. So whereas to you parts of the Holy Bible represents nothing more than the faulty ramblings of men (lies), I accept the Bible as fully representing the perfect mind of God (truth). And whereas I confirm that the following verse is the truth, you would more likely call it a lie:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" --- 2 Tim 3:16 ---

Maybe you don't want 'reproof', 'correction', or 'instruction in righteousness' ...which explains why you call homosexual behavior 'love' whereas God calls it just the 'opposite', a 'vile affection' and an 'abomination'. But God tells us about the many antichrists in the world (followers of Satan) that have opposed (rejected) His Word and chosen instead to believe 'just the opposite' of what God says. The Bible reveals that it is these people that personally choose to believe the lies of Satan (the Antichrist) 'instead of' the truth of God (the Christ). You have made your choice. But I personally chose a long time ago to let God be God (true). [Rom 3:4]

I realize that it's a lot easier and more fun to wallow in sin happily when you have finally made a personal choice to reject God and His truth. And it's so much easier to twist and pervert the words of God than to believe them, respect them, and obey them. [Jer 23:36] It's always tempting to please ourselves rather than to please God. But for me, rejecting God's truth and abiding in sin for a season is just not worth losing my soul for. [See Hebrews 11:25]

I pray that you have not hardened your heart to the point at which God simply gives you up, making a return to Him impossible (which happens when your conscience convinces you that God's Words are a lie).




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Sadanie, if you want, I think I can explain, without being an adversary, what I mean when I say that either one believes and accepts the truth written by God in the Word of God or not, and 'not' means rejecting God's truth and choosing to believe the opposite instead, which of course is a lie. I can also explain why we cannot just toss out of the Bible those things we don't like, and still call ourselves 'believers'. Just let me know.

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Really? So do you not eat shellfish or wear mixed fiber clothing?

 

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leek...your lack of understanding some of the things you read in the Bible will not justify before God your rejection of the truths that you 'do' understand written therein.

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I see- so people do pick and choose which parts to be ignored. Thanks for the answer.

 

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Once again, your sentence makes no sense.

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You could start by answering my initial question- do you not eat shellfish or wear mixed fabric clothing? There are many more examples of things the Bible calls "abominations" that I am pretty sure you participate in and for which you feel no need to repent.

Or, do you ask forgiveness every time you eat shellfish and wear mixed fabric clothing? You stated that people can't decide to follow just certain rules in the Bible, or did I not read that correctly?

 

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You really need to take your unbelief up with God, not me, because He is your Judge, the one who will decide where you will spend eternity....eternity. Good luck....

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