Finally, the Greens are gaining momentum....

I'm not at all concerned about the comments made by foreigners and do-gooders like m2catter living in Australia. When their arguments and debates are defeated by logic and truth, they start their personal attacks, by accusing white people like me of being racist, discriminatory & hating the world.

Within thier own limited intellect, they see nothing wrong with the contradiction of them wanting to help and protect their own foreign countrymen over Australians, and then accusing Australians of racism and hatred for wanting to help and protect Australians before foreigners.

We are dealing with intellect within Australia, and the country is not going to become anymore intelligent by allowing people (Africans) into the country with IQ's 59. Its not helpful being lied too by people like m2catter and the Greens party, by saying these people with IQ's of 59 are going to be "somehow" beneficial to Australia''s prosperity. Just how many trolley collecting jobs does Australia have?

While m2catter and his greenie mates fumble around in the dark like lost children, they cannot see the bigger picture as to what has been happening over the decades.

 

I went to the Green's web site and looked at some of their policies. I can only say that these people are living in La La Land!

 

For over two decades, I have watched the Greens Party trying to gradually turn from a group of people intent on protecting the environment into a standard political party that has the answers to all the questions to the questions, and it hasn’t worked.

The Greens once had practical ideas and solutions to help protect our planet and our environment, but over the last decade, their practical ideas and solutions have been diluted into on-the-run “hair-brained” ideas, just to fulfil their parties social agenda.

The constant “hair-brained” ideas: like forcing people into changing to those ridiculous fluoro light-blubs, that are now being dumped in landfill by the ten’s of million leaking toxic cancerous mercury into our underground water supply, doesn’t help the Greens intellectual credibility as being a “GENUINE” alternative party to the LNP or ALP to anyone with an IQ above 70.

The introduction of the new fluoro light blubs was a Greens initiative to save power, but the cost was contaminating our water supply with dangerous toxic mercury, because they failed to put in place correct and proper recycling centres before the introductions. Kind of reminds me of when Peter Garrett (former Senior Greens party member) was the Minister in charge of the bungled home insulation scheme - doesn’t it? LOL Thank heavens the Carbon Emission Trading Scheme (another Greens initiative) never got the chance to run its course, because it was also doomed to failure for so many reasons.

How in hell did the “wack-jobs” inside the Greens party(a party designed to protect the environment) determine that buying and selling pollution was going to stop pollution. Considering that any major polluting business would simply buy carbon credits from the stock exchange and keep polluting. Like any business after profit, they would simply pass on the cost of those purchased carbon credits to the consumers of their products. The only people who were going to be financially hurt by the introduction of the Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme was going to be the citizens, who would have to pay extra for goods and services. If the citizens stopped buying the goods and services, the businesses would just close-up shop, and move to a country that didn’t have any carbon taxes or Emission Trading Schemes. If Australia lost these companies and workers lost their jobs, how were the Greens going to find them new employment?

They never had the answers of HOW they were going to transition one group of workers with set skills in one industry to another completely different industry or employment. It can sometimes take years to transition an individual with one set of skills to another set of different skills, depending on that persons education/qualifications. Considering the job they leaving, and the new position they are applying for.

This is the direct lack of intellect from the Greens party and their supporters: They want every refugee/asylum seeker that arrives in Australia not held in detention, but released into the Australian community while they waiting to be processed. The Greens party and their supporters have taken it upon themselves to “assume” that every refugee/asylum seeker that arrives in Australia are all “good” people worthy of being Australian residents.
But not once have they ever considered adopting a policy to allow “unknown” people to mix with the countries general community might be very dangerous for the countries community. They have never considered allowing this kind of policy might be inviting criminals to migrate to Australia so they can to escape into the Australian community. Just imaging finding out at a later date, you have been financially helping support a murderer or rapist, who was allowed to enter your countries community, because the Greens party and their do-gooder supporters wanted to fulfil their own moral and ethical agendas over the best interest and welfare of the Australian citizens.

Imagine discovering you have been helping feed, cloth and house a murderer and rapist, because the Greens and their wacko supporters don’t like detention centre’s.

There is a reason why we have detention centres for people who come to the country without any documentation proving their identity. Its to stop criminals entering our country and our community. Allowing individuals into our community without knowing who they are is a reckless thought process and a reckless political policy that endangers our whole population.

Some of you people really need to wake up and stop acting like naïve kids, because the Greens would not take responsibility or accountability, if murderers and rapists were discovered in our community after they allowed an open-door policy on refugees entering our community, before their identities were established.

For god sake people wake up and start using what little brains you have.

You wouldn’t allow strangers to freely wander in and out of your house at random without knowing who they are. So why the hell would you expect the majority of Australians to agree with the greens and you to allow “unknown strangers” to wander around in Australia without knowing who they are?

 

Not answering to right wing extremists, CD and AM, get stuffed......
Regards

 

So why should we answer to left wing extremists? You continually fail to put up any sort of logical counter point to any of our criticisms of your wacko lefty philosophies.
You and all your pathetic lefty mates are living in a fantasy land, just like your Green Party idols.

 

Fanatics like m2catter and greens wack-jobs want criminals in Australia, otherwise they would logically recognise that detention centres are necessary. These fanatics would be the ones burning the witches at the stakes during the dark ages - shame on all of them.

 

You don't answer to them AM. You just keep proving their ideas are in the realm of fantasy wack-jobs with truth and logic, and treat them with the same respect as you would homer simpson guarding the bee in the bottle in the basement.

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You two are worse than parasites, even when politely asked you won't leave. No manners my mum would have said, you obviously both missed out in your upbringing......
Is anyone else interested in the future of our country, a future not only for white racists?
A future for all human beings, regardless of their skin colours, regardless of their believes?
A future where minorities are allowed to have a life as well? Gays, Lesbians, Abos and so on?
Looking for an alternative to Libs/Nationals and Labor, maybe with a stronger role for the Greens?
Sustainability would be high on my list!!!
Regards
And not to forget a fair treatment for refugees....

 

Only a complete simpleton would advocate that refugees are not being treated fairly in Australia - just love those comments.

Refugees coming to Australia with NO identity get to stay in warm secure detention centres; provided with three meal per day + snacks, warm-dry shelter, doctors on tap, computers and education services, and given a $40.00 per week allowance to buy personal items.

Australia's homeless refugees sleep in parks, door-ways, and under bridges, and are provided with no food, shelter, doctors and NO money.

Yes. The country shopping refugees are really being treated bad in Australia verses Australia's homeless people.

I'm happy and proud to be called a white racist, if that term means helping and protecting Australia's homeless over country shopping refugees, who are even willing to kill and psychologically sacrifice their own children's wellbeing, to sneek through Australia's backdoor to claim our generous welfare benefits.

 

You can always ignore. Certain numbskulls such as the said provide no discussion but just endless and frequent venting of the proverbial to try and forge some type of meaning to their meaningless lives. It certainly has plenty of time on its hands to constantly bombard this thread with meaningless and "low effort thinking" opinions.

Anyway, we have plenty of money, land and resources to go around. Let's increase our intake of genuine refugees and do the world and these people a favour. Nothing on this planet is ours, it is all borrowed for a time. We came into this place with nothing and will leave it with nothing. We can fight, destroy and dominate for a time but we won't be able to forever. The world will change and we, our children and our children's children will have to adapt. Give refugees whatever they need to get a start to help build this country. We need them a lot more than our own local nutjobs who are scared of change and variety by attempting to keep our country on a dog chain stopping inevitable progress.

Anyway, ignore the nutjobs so that you can have a robust discussion with other people without the endless wrist flapping, Low Effort Thinking, bogan style responses. I'm sure others would love to discuss topics with you but discussions get caught up in the quagmire of Low Effort Thinking, half wit vileness.

Discuss topics with people who at least have half a brain, your good manner and ideas are becoming lost in this mess!

 

Thanks TV,
you just made my day. Lets wait for those who see the glass half full, and not always half empty....:
Regards

 

Your right.. your stuff is not low effort thinking, its low effort non-thinking!! One side talks about the problem and its impacts, and your side says she'll be right and calls others dumb.... just because you disagree and have no real argument maybe

 

I guess that counts me out. I always see the glass as full, full of air and water. Of course I ignore the empty spaces between and within the atoms and ignore the different amounts of air at different altitudes.

 

If Australia has "plenty of money to go around" - then why do we have 300,000 refugee homeless Australians?

Australia does have plenty of money to financially fund the Greens "wack-jobs" in their employment as refugee solicitors and advocates, but nothing for the Australian homeless.

I think we are all starting to get a good idea just "WHO" the real parasites are!! The greens and their supporters making a financial living off the refugee crisis - parasites.

 

Absolutely. Forums such as these can be learning places for everyone. There are some who don't want to challenge their thought processes. No doubt because things that are simple for others to learn and understand seem like complexities to the simple minded.

I'm not a supporter of the greens possibly due to my ignorance on their policy but certainly believe there is a human side that is starting to appeal to many. A cave man lacked intellectual capacity and therefore lacked sensitivity and emotion due to this interconnecting state of mind. There is no doubt in my mind that some people have not crossed completely over into the threshold of homo saipien intellect. The greens certainly demonstrate high level thinking on numerous areas, but obviously the challenge is to implement policy in a slow and efficient manner that ensures people who sit on the brink of advanced human intellect and thus sensitivity are able to be carried over the seducement of low effort thinking narrowness that can snares people who then have to slowly trudge through the sh!t of lower intellectual, 1 dimensional and easy information. I've been caught in the snare and was raised to take the easy road through conservative views of the world. I'm getting there and probably helped along through my time on this forum, mainly through the cringe worthy responses of the.....dare I say it....low effort thinkers!

 

I'm not a supporter of the greens after Gillard paid $30 Million of punters money directly into the Greens Bank account to buy their Carbon Tax vote.

It gives me the sqirts that the Greens refuse to account for what happened to the cash!

 

TV and DaS,
just got back from an overseas trip (black continent), will reply in the next couple of days......
Regards

 

Hi,
I was trying to upload a photo taken by myself in Africa, just over a week ago. Obviously I am too stupid, for some reason it won't work. The core proposition of this street sign was: Sustainable Energy for All by 2030 , country Zimbabwe. One of the really poor nations, with unemployment rate of around 80%. But despite all their problems these guys are ambitious, and what do we do?
One of the wealthiest nations on earth, and whinging about everything, plus closing our eyes when real problems emerge.....

I am aware that there are plenty of things, the Greens need to get their heads around, but I believe the fundamental course is the right one.

There will be no contribution in any significant way by the Abbott government towards cutting green house emissions, towards renewable energies, towards boat people, towards minority groups such as gays, lesbians and Abos, towards the big problem of Israel/Palestine, towards some sort of world peace. Those guys are that deep in the rear end of our economy (and that of others), that they've forgotten to use their brains. All they care off is a growth rate of around 3%. There is no, and I mean absolutely no planning for our future, the one in 20 or 30 years time. All they care for is being reelected again, these (*)(*)(*)(*)s.

Labor isn't much better! We need some sort of new vehicle with all the current challenges and the future ones, and I cannot see any other party, trying to address some of these points.

I most certainly don't agree on everything they say or stand for, but the majority they do get right....
Regards

 

And the Greens will gain more momentum, reading those news:

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/abbott-government-grilled-over-climate-policy/ar-AAbkisj

What a useless government we have! And why some people still vote for them, beggars belief....
Regards

 

Did you research any of the companies involved, who are pushing the sustainable energy for all by 2030 crap? Have they setup recycling factories and industries for those lighbulbs and solar panels that contain toxic mercury and other toxic chemicals? Or, are they just going to be like Australia, and dump tens of million into landfill and contaminate their underground water supply to save a bit of energy.

Hazardous Materials

The PV cell manufacturing process includes a number of hazardous materials, most of which are used to clean and purify the semiconductor surface. These chemicals, similar to those used in the general semiconductor industry, include hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, hydrogen fluoride, 1,1,1-trichloroethane, and acetone. The amount and type of chemicals used depends on the type of cell, the amount of cleaning that is needed, and the size of silicon wafer [4]. Workers also face risks associated with inhaling silicon dust. Thus, PV manufactures must follow U.S. laws to ensure that workers are not harmed by exposure to these chemicals and that manufacturing waste products are disposed of properly.

Thin-film PV cells contain a number of more toxic materials than those used in traditional silicon photovoltaic cells, including gallium arsenide, copper-indium-gallium-diselenide, and cadmium-telluride[5]. If not handled and disposed of properly, these materials could pose serious environmental or public health threats. However, manufacturers have a strong financial incentive to ensure that these highly valuable and often rare materials are recycled rather than thrown away.

http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/...nmental-impacts-solar-power.html#.VTRYGyGqpBc

Go the greens party - save some energy by contaminating the planet with toxic chemicals.

 

Did the greens leader attend any Anzac service?

 

Does she need to?

Do you go to church on Sundays?

Do you walk to demonstrate your disgust about the Iraq War?

I honestly would love to know what the diggers of WW1 would have thought about the celebration (glorification springs to my mind) we held 100 years later.
You know, for the war they fought in and the lives they lost, the war which should have been the last one. That is to my understanding one of the most important messages and part of the Anzac.

But than we have guys like you, who make such cheap contributions, in playing the national fiddle by questioning her Australian spirit....

Regards

 

Many a good Australian's brains and guts are forever in Turkey so Christine Milne could pocket $30 Million without account, and her respect for those blokes is to lay in bed masturbating away, hoping her poof piece of not attending to commemorate them, will win over the voters!

 

Maybe time for you to leave this thread, your disrespect and strong bogan attitude speak for themselves.
I don't have a problem with people, not agreeing with the Greens. However, some etiquette is vital.
You show the same moral values as CD, whom I also politely asked to stay away......
Regards

 

Nationalism aside. I have absolutely no respect for Christine Milne, however it is her choice to make. These very brave men and women gave their lives so we all could make choices like the one Christine Milne has exacted. The problem is Cat's, she made it a political statement. She did this for effect, thus rendering all the lives lost in the pursuit of freedom and choice by all these selfless brave souls over the generations, worthless.

And even though I find Das's comments crude, he does have a point. If she exercised her choice in silent as many non church goers do then she does not have an issue