First Lady pushing ObamaCare: ‘Young people are knuckleheads’

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  1. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    Young is a purely relative term and, TBH, I don't think of myself as young any longer. When I turn 20 - that will be the end of that. I suspect the lady was speaking of young teenagers in the range of 13-15, and yes we all did some pretty silly things at that age. As for your accusation of presumption - I have never claimed to speak for anyone but myself.

    I take your point that it was a silly thing for that lady to say, and have said so myself several times thus far, so there is no need to labour it any further. I simply do not agree that it is of such cataclysmic import, and as I have no interest whatsoever in your party politics, I don't care who of what ideology said it.
     
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    No, she was talking about young adults. If you cannot be bothered to read the article and absorb the context, then why bother giving your opinion?

    I'm getting sick of your strawmen. I didn't say I was going to storm the winter palace nor did I say it was cataclysmic. You keep claiming you have no political interest in this, but I am beginning to doubt that given your repeated attempts to diminish the issue without fully understanding it. That smacks of bias on your part.

    And, predictably, you dodged my racial equivalency argument and did not give your opinion on its appropriateness. To me, that is a tacit admission that I am correct in my assessment.
     
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    "Sub-human mongrel" is an insult. "Knucklehead" is not an insult no matter what age group it is applied to. But notice how "sub-human mongrel" is okay with the Obama bashers, but "knucklehead" set a world record for depravity.
     
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    I'd bet in terms of absolute numbers, there are far more many whites than blacks not valuing education. And blacks are not continuously attacking education. Whites think they can always hang a short block V8 from an oak tree and live the good life.

    PS - charter schools are the same as conventional public schools but taught by inferior teachers using inferior resources.
     
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    Obviously we see our young as knuckleheads. Can't vote til you're 18, can't drink til you're 21 (in all but one state), can't run for President until you're 35.

    But the young also tend to have less money, and Obamacare isn't free. It isn't even cheap. Not for someone starting out. So I don't want to hear her disparage anyone for refusing to sign up. When healthcare is taxpayer funded and of equal quality regardless of your income, she can call people names for refusing to go online and sign up. Until then, what does she know? I bet she's never had to skip a meal to pay a bill in her whole life.
     
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    She didn't disparage anybody. She touted ObamaCare and that's about it. If she had called young people "sub-human mongrels" I'd agree with you, eh?
     
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    Millennial bashing is popular in the polls.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bill, she was talking about your generation. How does that make you "feel"?
     
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    I guess "Meh" would be the right word. I've never been one to get all worked up over this sorta thing. I'm more concerned with the issues.

    I do think my generation deserves more respect than it gets from the boomers. I think we've been handed a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ty jobs situation and we are the first generation in a while to have it tougher than our parents. And the last time we had a generation born in these kind of conditions it produced the "greatest generation"

    I think when all's said and done we'll be a very respectful generation.
     
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    I certainly know what a hypocrite is. You should look it up.
     
  11. Ethereal

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    Way to dodge the point I was making.

    I accept your concession...:smile:
     
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    That was easy.
     
  13. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Michelle Obama you're a generation of "Knuckleheads". Myself I think your generation will be fighting like the "greatest generation", except instead of fighting against the Axis Imperialism, you'll be fighting for scraps of food to eat.

    The Outstanding Public Debt as of 25 Feb 2014 at 02:17:53 AM GMT is:

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    The estimated population of the United States is 317,708,172 so each citizen's share of this debt is $54,828.86.

    Myself I'm old enough that I'll never see that bill's collectors come looking for payment, alas I believe you are young enough to.
     
  14. Leo2

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    Well, she might have been, but nowhere in the article did it specify the exact age range, and 'young' is still a relative term (if you are already in your twenties, you are not really young any more). And please don't dictate when I may or may not give an opinion.

    LOL, not nearly as sick as I am of your lack of civility. Are you so unaware of the allegorical use of language that you assume those terms meant a literal assault upon a palatial building, or a violent and sudden change in the earth's crust?

    Of course you may doubt anything you like, but if you really think your provincial party politics interest someone on the other side of the earth, to the extent of allegiance, you are suffering from a degree of Americano-centrism. There is a world elsewhere and you are simply not that important. :wink:

    I am not aware of having dodged anything, and I seem to recall indicating that the scenario you presented was inappropriate in respect of any demographic.

    I suggest we return to discussing the issues, not personal characteristics, but do not be misled into thinking civility indicates an inability to defend oneself. :)
     
  15. Ethereal

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    1. She was talking about health insurance for young adults. That is the demographic which is needed to help subsidize the healthcare of the sick and the elderly.
    2. The lack of a specified age range didn't stop you from specifying an age range yourself (13-15). Of course, the 13-15 age range wouldn't produce much in the way of premium payments, nor are they known for the habit of dancing atop bars, but other than that, you make a great point.
    3. You say (correctly) that young is relative term, then proceed to contradict yourself in the next clause of your sentence by saying that you're not really young anymore when you're in twenties. I'm sure you are smart enough to figure out why that is a silly statement.
    4. I have dictated nothing to you by asking a question.

    A lack of civility would be mischaracterizing my objections by portraying them an extremist light, which is what you are attempting to do with your use of the terms "egotistic", "sensitive", "storm the palace", and "cataclysmic".

    Yet, here you are, trying your best to distort my position.

    Would you characterize the objections of black people the same way you have characterized mine, calling them "egotistic" and "sensitive"?

    I don't think you have been that civil.
     

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