First on CNN: New George H. Accuser says he groped her during 1992 re-election campaign

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  1. Aphotic

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    Nonsense. By your standard it's on her. The picture clearly shows no contact. I am not excusing Franken, but the two are incomparable. Franken is a scumbag if he forcibly kissed her like she claims. Roy Moore chased underage girls. He then relied on Christians in Alabama to excuse his pedophiliac behavior using the bible.
     
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    Disagree that this is a witch hunt. There are just too many woman speaking out plus there are many supporting statements from multiple people backing up what those women are saying. Moore was a Mall Pervert who had to be kept away from trolling for teens.

    The worse part is that Moore uses religion to hide his perversion. That not only makes him a pservert but a hypocrite.
     
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    Exactly! Moore is still using religion to get votes. He is making statements that we need to get closer to God that we are not doing Gid's bidding ax a country. Ok you Moore apologists did God bid Moore to go forth and molest underage teen girls.

    Yes Franden is a pig, scum Turd, and POS but that does make Moore a Saint.
     
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    POTUS is right there with them. Admitted pooty grabber and accused of sexual assault himself. Where's his ethics investigation?
     
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    How do you know? Maybe he's innocent? He hasn't been proven guilty.
     
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    No. Biden is Mr. Creepy. He would not be creeping on my women and girls like that. Jeff Sessions handled him pretty well. When he tried creeping on his granddaighter, Sessions knocked his hand off and then through him the look that made it clear: "Back off, or we escalate from here!" Creepy Joe Biden, in his heart a coward, of course backed off.
     
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    Gloria Allred is now in CYA mode as seen on MTP Daily (MSNBC):

    "But did she see him sign it?

    ALLRED: You know, I don’t — I haven’t asked her if she saw him, but we did describe what happened that evening in question. What she alleges was that she put it on the counter; that I think she asked to sign — or that he did sign it. That’s all.

    I ask this, because it seems you’re not 100% sure that it is his signature, and if you’re not 100% sure that it is his signature, why would you show it at a press conference?"
     
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    He's had a lot of company. From GQ archives February 1990 -- Ted Kennedy on the Rocks:

    "It is after midnight and Kennedy and Dodd are just finishing up a long dinner in a private room on the first floor of the restaurant's annex. They are drunk. Their dates, two very young blondes, leave the table to go to the bathroom. (The dates are drunk too. "They'd always get their girls very, very drunk," says a former Brasserie waitress.) Betty Loh, who served the foursome, also leaves the room. Raymond Campet, the co-owner of La Brasserie, tells Gaviglio the senators want to see her.

    As Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. With Gaviglio on Dodd's lap, Kennedy jumps on top and begins rubbing his genital area against hers, supporting his weight on the arms of the chair. As he is doing this, Loh enters the room. She and Gaviglio both scream, drawing one or two dishwashers. Startled, Kennedy leaps up. He laughs. Bruised, shaken and angry over what she considered a sexual assault, Gaviglio runs from the room. Kennedy, Dodd and their dates leave shortly thereafter, following a friendly argument between the senators over the check."
     
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    How long has McConnell been in charge? Doesn't look like he cleaned it up! Time for McConnell to resign!

    Roy Moore Blasts Mitch McConnell About Al Franken
     
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    Hey, hey; Ho, ho, crooked Mitch has got to go!

    It's too bad the whole senate can't be made to run for reelection next November.

    Every senator, maybe even the women, should be under investigation.

    You know that young women teachers are sex abusers as much as men teachers these days.
     
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    Remember when they said the accusers were Trump supporters? Then why this?

    "Deborah Wesson Gibson, the woman who alleges that she engaged in a legal and consensual but inappropriate relationship with Republican senatorial candidate Roy Moore has deleted multiple political postings from her Facebook page, including anti-Roy Moore articles, and rants about removing President Trump from office."
    https://conservativepost.com/breaki...er-pulls-a-hillary-hits-delete-on-everything/
     
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    i can only imagine there will be a flood of accusations coming up that will make a mess of things.

    as usual with politics, all of this will be a race to the bottom :)
     
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    that is because he was an elected official. afaiac, the same with franken and trump.

    again the ones about h w bush have surprised me, i thought better of him.
     
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    iirc she was the one whose mother was very happy that she was dating Roy Moore -- for two months.
     
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    It shows contact to me

    But even if you assume the picture does not show what it shows the photo is sexual exploitation
     
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    Clearly the "no contact" is a deflection. the picture shows contact to anyone looking at it. The obvious confirmation of that contact is that Al Franken himself made no such disclaimer about not really touching her, and that it was meant to look that way as a joke...which he certainly would have pointed out if that was the fact.

    No. He apologized for the picture of him groping her , as seen, with no attempt to paint a difference from what people saw which acknowledges it was contact.


    Some of these people are insane in what they'll defend. The proof is right in front of us.
     
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    I know because I believe enough of the accusers since their stories were not exaggerated. Moore has displaced the character of of a hypocrit therefore I just cannot believe him. Moore failed to defend himself even on Shaun Vannity's radio show when the Dirt Bag Vannity threw out softball leading questions. His defense was that it was not usual for him to bang young teen girls. His biggest defense was that he asked permission of the mother's of teen girl before he dated them. Former Mall security guard said that Moore was runoff from the Mall because as a thirty something the pervert used to harass young teen girls at the Mall.
     
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    No contact?

    Dont be silly

    There is no visual evidencevtonoverturn the call

    He’s touching her
     
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    The photos don't show contact. You'd have to be blind to believe he is touching her here.

    yes, posing as if you're touching someone sleeping is "in poor taste", but isn't it just "locker room" joking around?
     
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    Not only does the picture show conract it is sexually demeaning the woman
     
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    Its a two dimensionaal image with his hand on top of her breasts

    I assume he is touching her becaus thats what the picture shows
     
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    It doesn't. The image is clear that he is not touching her. The shadows of his hands, fingers, and forearms, are not convergent upon a point of contact.

    He is acting as if touching them.

    Now, since the photo doesn't show contact, "prove he groped her."
     
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    All hearsay evidence. He wasn't banned from the mall. The former mall security guard has no proof of his assertion. You don't even take his words out of context, you just plain lie about what he said to Sean Hannity.

    Asking permission of the parents is an old tradition. You may not like it, but it was considered a courtesy. Many people to this day ask the parents for permission to marry their daughter.

    How do you know the stories weren't exaggerated? Were you there? Did you witness it? How do you know their stories are not flat out lies? What proof do they have that their stories are one bit true? Who saw these young girls on dates with Moore? Where are the witnesses who saw them together? What was the date of these occurrences? What was the time? What was the judge wearing? What kind of car was he driving? Did they write it down in their diaries? There is just no testimony or evidence which backs up these women. And the greatest question of all, why didn't they come forward during the primary? Why didn't they come forward during his time as a State Supreme Court Justice? Why didn't they come forward during one of his many other election campaigns? The fact that they can't answer these questions only makes their credibility that much more questionable.
     
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    He allegedly patted a womans behind?

    Thats trivial even if it were true
     
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