Flight 93 recovered underground?

Stop lying....

Own your work.

I also believe Fangbeer gave you some excellent advice concerning written forums.

 

The percentage of it that was recovered from the Shanksville site was returned to the airline that owned it. If you still want to see the plane I suggest you ask UA for it.

 

I got confused somewhere. What are you saying?

Then why did you ask to show you some?

Hannibal. He says it's a "fact" that most of the plane was buried. Is that what you believe?

Anybody there. How much blood was observed at the scene?

 

If I was lying, I would have said "[None] of us asked to show evidence that [insert % here] was buried."

So stop lying that I was lying. You guys are so obsessed with this.

The thread is "Flight 93 recovered underground?"

So was it?

 

So how does that prove most of it came out of the ground in Shanksville?

 

And btw, I see no strawman argument in this OP.

Feel free to point it out if there is one.

 

You are so obsessed with this, not us. It's the very premise your strawman is founded upon. You claim that percentage is the official government stance........now back that sh it up. I've lost track how many times this has been asked. We both know where you got that number, and it wasn't from the government was it?

Own your work, or continue lying.

 

Yeah, you're not obsessed.

Where in this thread's original post does it say the government's official stance is [insert % here] of the plane was buried?

 

This is the OP, can you decipher what it means based on the title of this thread?

Is that 95% supposed to be underground? Was the site really just a hole with dime sized pieces?

So are we talking underground, on the ground, in the trees, in the lake, or just underground?

What is the claim being made by this swerving OP? I'm not even calling him on the 747 because I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that was a simple error.

Where is this 40 feet underground claim? Is he implying the official stance is that the entire plane was found 40 underground, or just some of the pieces?

You inserted your own 80% underground claim (which I've documented), so is that the official claim? You know, UNDERGROUND like the thread title you are so interested in returning to.

These are the reasons why this entire thread is a strawmen. It's the fault of you truth seekers making disingenuous claims.

 

Yes, pretty much based of these claims:

Hannibal: "The people on the scene confirmed for me that the plane was mostly buried."
"I believe the people on the scene, and they say the majority of UA93 was buried at the scene of the crash."
"The links address the fact that most of the plane was recovered on that site, largely from within the earth."

95% is what the government claimed was recovered in total, or do you need a citation on that too?

Hmm, I'm going to go with was "Flight 93 recovered underground?"

I'm pretty sure he's meaning found down to about 40 feet underground. He just says "the claim," the same claim Hannibal gives.

Well I'm not the OP, but since my few posts were I stated 80% is such a sore contention to you guys, I'll retract that and revert to what I've mostly been saying; that "most of the plane" was said to have been buried, just like Hannibal thinks and claims is a "fact."

Do you think most of the plane buried is a fact?

 

Moving the goalposts. Again.

I'm convinced: you're completely obsessed with me (creepy) and you are just playing games (pathetic). It's obvious from your signature to your constantly referring to me in most every post. Get over it: you have no support for your straw man arguments.

 

Listen Hooper (yes we know where else you post and masquerade as). He's got you dead to rights. Admit it. You're wrong.

 

What the heck are you babbling about?

Can you show evidence to support your OP or not?

 

You're obsessed.
We're obsessed.

The plane was buried.
The plane was not buried.
The plane was underground
The plane was not underground

blah blah blah blah blah....

Flight 93 crashed in Somerset County PA outside of Shanksville. The DNA from the passengers was found. It was tracked via ATC to the crash site. Wreckage was found at the crash site. The FDR along with many phone calls confirms it was hijacked.

Those are the facts and they are not in dispute from any serious quarter.

 

Jesus, you like to hem and haw on the net don't you? That's why you're only here to play games.

Most or majority underground....ok. You realize (going by those percentages you enjoy), that 51% would constitute most or a majority. It's obviously an estimate by those on the scene, considering debris was ALSO found on the ground, in the trees, in the lake, etc....

I can see the possibility that debris found on the ground with only a little bit of dirt over it be construed as "underground" (I've seen such pics), but, again, I wasn't there nor was involved in the search and recovery on the site (and neither were you truth seeker). Hannibal gave you some contact numbers, go to the effin' source already. That is, if you're really seeking the truth and not just playing games on the net. I think we know which one it actually is though.

Meanwhile, how does any of this lead one to the conclusion that the plane was planted? Do you have any actual proof of that "theory" beyond your own opinion? It doesn't look "right" to your eyes? Have you worked crash sites? Did you have a past life with the NTSB or the FBI? Do you have ANY proof beyond your opinion and stupid non-scientific photoshop studies? Any?

Let's be clear here, ALL of the nonsense involving this planted plane theory comes from ONE source that's been parroted all over the net. This theory has been peddled by one person for years now and it has NOT ONCE shown anything close to being conclusive. It's been bandied about on more forums than one can count, and the creator has been banned from more forums than one can count (including Truther forums). This person has even been distanced by his own brethren. I'm not even going into detail on some of this person's more vile actions on the net that have been well documented, which is why the term vermin best fits this person.

What kind of conclusion should one read from that? That this theory has validity or that it's game playing or just simple trolling? The proof is in the pudding truth seeker.

fin

 

He's DEAD!

 

Wow, after all this time of the skeptics believing most of the plane buried, they can't even prove it even though hundreds of workers at the scene and the media were fixated on the crater. Amazing.

I think it's again safe to say nothing was buried there and people lied that it was.

 

Hannibal, do you post as "hooper" at AboveTopSecret.com forum?

Yes or no?

 

LOL Very true. First..the idea wasn't even acknowledged. Now...it's "Well...not officially". Truly hilarious!

 

Determining whether or not a plane was buried, or it wasn't, is "hair splitting".
LOL

 

Careful there fraud, calling out someone's else's moniker that they've used elsewhere will get you suspended here.

 

Why don't you address the longer post I made fraud. I pointed out the numerous strawmen in your op.

Or don't, I don't really care

 

Hooper dances away from his statement that he talked with officials, it was underground, blah, blah. They don't want to admit that it WASN'T underground, because that would conflict with "official" sources repeatedly (by "official" specifically, for purposes of this particular point...not the OP, I'm including the FBI, as "official". Not the "official" BS story produced by Phillip Zelikow).

It either WAS, or it WASN'T "mostly" underground, as Hooper claimed that it was.

Was it, or wasn't it "mostly" underground? Answer or dodge. Your choice.

 

Have you considered trying to prove that the plane was planted there?

After all, that's what this all boils down to doesn't it?

 

Would that be an "it WAS" or an "it WASN'T"?

Dodge noted.