Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    It doesn't go to May. Heck, we have over 18% positivity rate.

    You should be catching on, because the numbers simply do not add up to 1.8 million. Its closer to 50 000. The number is obviously not compiled. You should have looked around a bit, like the active cases per 1M and the number breakdowns, which are nowhere near 1.8. And you want people to scream about it???

    Fortunately people in FL are now seeking vaccines seeing how serious the problem is.
     
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    Florida is 26th in deaths per capita. Maybe Biden should stop pumping illegals into Florida.
     
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    The numbers speak for themselves. I can't help it if you don't know how to read the data. The 1.8 million current cases are not per capita. They are current total active cases per state which are duplicated by the CDC. World meters info is live and is updated 24 hours a day. Their info comes from state reports, CDC, and other sights tracking Covid information. They are not affiliated with any political groups. They just report live data. Which is why you will see it change hour by hour.

    I realize it doesn't fit your theories but that doesn't mean that the thousands upon thousands crunching data every hour are all wrong and only you can be right.

    I mean how could any reasonable person conclude there are only 50,000 active cases in a state with 39 million people. Is this a magic state?
     
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  4. truth and justice

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    LOL. 7 day moving average:
    California : 7000 cases per day
    Florida : 16000 cases per day

    And California has double the population of Florida and many more illegals!
     
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    I asked you to look at active case per 1M, and I also asked you to look at the total active cases breakdown, which don't come anywhere near 1.8M

    I didn't say that either. I said the numbers do not seem complete, because the breakdown which should total 1.8 million is closer to 50 000, and yet the cases per million is about 100K. Its not adding up. Maybe they are missing some numbers.

    How about you rave about California, while I worry about the State I live in? Deal?
     
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    So you can explain why California has 1.8 million active cases with 39 million pop
    While Florida has 308,000 active cases with 21 million pop.

    California has twice the population but 6 times more current active cases.
     
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    There is a total cases per million pop charted. For California its 100,359. Total cases since the first infection of which California has had 3.9 million TOTAL cases with 2.1 million recovered. HENCE, they Currently they have 1.8 million ACTIVE cases.

    You seem to prefer to take a moment in time and try and make it the average when its not.

    How about you learn what the data states and nobody would have to come on here and correct you.
     
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    Because active cases are not verified or checked. People are not tested repeatedly during their illness to see when they become no longer an active case
     
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    Just wow. I'm going to let that statement just speak for itself. No response is needed.
     
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    California clocked 3,707 new cases (10K on Friday). Florida last reported number was 21 000+ with positivity rate of over 18% (vs 6.2% in CA). Yea......lets pretend California is worse off.

    Now FL hospitals are filling up, and deaths will follow.

    Florida breaks second alarming COVID-19 record
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-covid-hospitalizations-record-10207/

    A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.

    The previous record was from July 23, 2020, more than a half-year before vaccinations started becoming widespread, when Florida had 10,170 hospitalizations, according to the Florida Hospital Association.
     
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    Go Florida!

    DeSantis '24...

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    As we know Florida is not releasing daily numbers, and it seems the weekly report does not include the "active cases". They also subtract all non-permanent residents from all numbers. Not sure how active cases are reported by other States, because it doesn't add up that CA would have 50% of their total cases from past 18 months still "active".

    As per Worldometers, the active / recoveries is actually something that is hightly imperfect. No wonder it didnt add up.
    Active Cases = (total cases) - (total deaths) - (recovered). This figure represents the current number of people detected and confirmed to be infected with the virus. This figure can increase or decrease, and represents an important metric for Public Health and Emergency response authorities when assessing hospitalization needs versus capacity.

    Recoveries = this statistic is highly imperfect, because reporting can be missing, incomplete, incorrect, based on different definitions, or dated (or a combination of all of these) for many governments, both at the local and national level, sometimes with differences between states within the same country or counties within the same state.
     
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    Exactly.

    CA has an active cases at 4.6% of their population.
    FL has active cases at 1.4% of their population.

    FL's record is better than the US record of 1.6% of Americans actively infected.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
     
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    Well, which bit do you not understand? You really think that Bob who tested positive yesterday is going to be tested every day for the next several months?

    LOL at you thinking that California must have 1.6 - 1.8 million active cases since Jan 2021 and no one has recovered
     
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    Happy 60th Birthday President Obama. Hope you enjoy your 500 guest super spreader birthday party. I wonder why President Biden won't be in attendance? I thought they were buddies?
     
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    Active cases don't last that long. Most are under a week. But its funny how you will claim its impossible to count the number of infected for California then ridicule Florida for its numbers when they all come from the same charts. How convenient for you.

    What more LOL is that nobody made that claim. You just made it up. Thats quite the imagination you have.

    California has 1.8 million active infections right now. Not since Jan of 2021, not since the beginning of time, and not that anyone claimed no one has recovered.
    They have 1.8 million active cases right now.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
     
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    They don't go by real charted numbers. They go by CNN talking points. If they were so upset over the number of people infected, they have 16 other states that have worse rates of infection than Florida does.

    All they care about is DeSantis bashing. They couldn't give a rats ass about people.
     
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    I think America should go to war with China for what they've done, that should liven up the death toll.
     
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    Can we have your vaccine that fully protects us please?
     
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    That includes children who wont ever get vaccinated
     
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    LOL Active cases and new cases are not the same! New daily cases are easily counted!
    That figure has stayed practically the same since January at the peak of the wave. Clearly that number is not updated. Basic logic shows that! Look at the graph of active cases for California.
     
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    you know what a vaccine does right, it trains your immune system to fight the virus once you get the virus

    you did not think the vaccine was like an invisible force shield did you?
     
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    Where did you think active cases come from lol

    False. Just in the last 2 days California went from 1,760 million to 1,800 million. In January they were 1,2 million. In November of last year they were at 460,000
    You're basic logic doesn't work very well, does it.
     
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    This is getting tedious trying to explain to you something so simple. California total number of cases = 3.9 million since March 2020. Do you really think that nearly half of the total number of cases are still active?

    Think man!
    Texas : total cases = 3.1 Million, active cases = 134,000 = 4% of total cases
    Florida : total cases = 2.6 million, Active cases = 308,000 = 12% of total cases
    New York : total cases = 2.2 million. Active cases = 87,000 = 4% of total cases

    Yet you think that California, active cases = 45% of total cases is a genuine percentage!
     
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    What makes you think my vaccine would be any better than yours? You can always hope though.

    “Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,” Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”

    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
     
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