Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is that the government is not making you or anyone else eat a specific food or food product....Unless you include Michelle Obama who espouses eating like a bird while shoving ice cream and burgers down her gullet.


    Unfortunately (for you) the FACTS don't support your unsupported opinion. However it is your right to remain ignorant.


    It's BEEF...Where do you think it comes from? Outer space?

    So...If you COOK a steak it is no longer a steak? Dude...Do you even read what you post?


    Stop with the projecting your hallucinations on me. I am challenging your depiction of 'slime' regarding FTB. So far, all you can come up with is a bunch of unfounded, unsupported hyperbole.
     
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    Wrong...As I ALREADY posted from a link I provided:

    "Trimmings are chunks of meat that result when large carcasses are broken down into steaks, roasts and other cuts."

    In any case, no one is MAKING you eat it so...unwad your pink panties.
     
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    No (*)(*)(*)(*). Straw man since I never claimed otherwise.

    Guess you didn't... or maybe couldn't read the link provided. Who am I to judge?

    It's just so far removed from anything any human might consider it, it can't even be labeled as such. So sure, it comes from a cow, what parts of it... who knows? The beef I eat I know exactly what part of the animal it came from, the sludge you choose to ingest is mystery meat.

    I know where my steak came from, if it's sirloin, rib eye, strip or filet. According to FDA regulations the sludge you're defending (no idea why) can't even be labeled as beef, or ground beef, or even "hamburger". .... but that's right, you didn't read the link, I guess that makes sense then.

    I posted a link to the FDA regulations of what can be labeled beef, you ignored it and you calling my opinion unsupported? Laughable.
     
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    People have choices at the market. They aren't forced to buy junk food - that's all on them. Plus, higher quality food costs more..
     
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    Your opinion is TOTALLY unsupported. Provide a link showing FTB is processed at over 120F (as stated in YOUR link).

    Also...

    "When any form of lean finely textured beef is blended into ground beef, will it be labeled?
    Because it is 100% beef, LFTB is not singled out as a separate ingredient on ground beef
    packages."


    http://www.meatami.com/ht/a/GetDocumentAction/i/76184

    Now stop spreading lies.
     
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    Right, it sure is. As long as you ignore my link the the FDA requirements, which you've quite obviously done.

    A link to the "American Meat Institute"? Yea, they've got no skin in the game.
     
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    We have the same food in the grocery store as they have in Paris, or the markets in remote Mexico. I know. You don't have to buy the processed stuff.
     
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    So your predictable answer is that everyone is lying. Prove it. Fact is YOU are lying because I already TOLD you I read your link.

    Your link does not claim what you say it does. Provide a quote to support your statement like I did supporting my point of view. I, in fact, provided you 2 links WITH quotes. Did you even read my post? FTB is BEEF and when blended with ground beef, the product is called BEEF. (Because it IS beef)
     
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    *** NO PERSONAL INSULTS ***
    ****!!! FTB ceases to become beef when you put Ammonia in it. Moreover, it is connective tissue that was legally renamed beef. YOU CAN'T REDEFINE WORDS AND HIDE BEHIND LEGAL RHETORIC AND STILL CLAIM TO HAVE CHANGED REALITY.

    We have no problem with FTB! We just want to know WHAT THE €£¥#%^* IT ACTUALLY IS. If you would have told us it was a connective tissue cocktail of ammonia, flavoring, and food colors, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE GOTTEN ACCUSTOMED TO IT, but instead you molested the US Government into redefining words and omitting things YOU ADD TO THE FOOD from being labelable entities.

    We want to know WTF you ADD TO THE FOOD, capice? If you (*)(*)(*)(*) in the food. TELL US. If you sprinkle the food, TELL US. If you raised the food in a particular way. TELL US. How is it so difficult!

    YOU SHOULD HAVE (*)(*)(*)(*)ING PRIDE IN THE WAY YOU ARE HANDLING PEOPLES' FOOD. IF YOU CANNOT PROUDLY EXCLAIM WHAT YOU ARE DOING, THEN WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS €£¥#%^* WRONG.

    The whole €£¥#%^* purpose of labels is to know WHAT YOU PUT INTO THE FOOD. When you make it so that some things you can put in and not tell people, you VIOLATE THE INTEGRITY of the label and you might as well not have a label at all. AMERICANS CAN NOW TRUST NEITHER THEIR LABELS NOR THEIR GOVERNMENT. You wanted to hide the fact you were molesting the food, and now YOU WANT TO CLAIM IT IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS NOT. Shame on ***!!

    Just label the €£¥#%^* thing %90 Beef, %10 Connective tissue treated with Ammonia. THAT'S WHAT IT €£¥#%^* IS. ***If*** that's NOT a lie, then your claim of 100% Beef ***IS*** A LIE.

    Moreover, you ***CAN*** eat 100% Beef, but you ***CANNOT*** eat 100% Pink Slime. THAT MEANS ONE OF THEM IS NOT BEEF. Take your pick!! THEY CANNOT BOTH SHARE THE SAME WORDS.

     
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    It is beef trimmings from cuts such as steak, roasts, etc. It is too hard at that point to pull the meat from the fat by hand so they do it mechanically and, to ensure absolute cleanliness they add a bit of natural ammonium hydroxide. I provided 2 links in prior posts, read them...get back later.
     
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    The same method could be applied to toilet water to make it drinkable.

    The only problem with what you are doing, is WHERE the commodity came from, WHAT you are doing to it to make it edible, HOW you put it in peoples' mouths, CAUSING them to enter the FALSE BELIEF that it is the same as other sources of the same commodity. And manipulating the US Government to go along. In short, EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING IS WRONG. STOP. YOU ARE KILLING THE NATURAL MEAT MARKET. IF ONE MUST CHEAT, THEY ALL MUST CHEAT IN ORDER TO COMPETE. YOU ARE LOWERING US FOOD QUALITY ACROSS THE BOARD.

    TOILET WATER is MORE LIKE WATER, THAN FTB IS LIKE BEEF. While you could put toilet water in a cup and convince someone it is water, you COULD NOT hand a person a fist-full of FTB and have then believe it is in any way beef!! THEY WILL CALL IT PINK SLIME.

    If you CANNOT label it describing exactly what you are doing to the food, then WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS WRONG.

     
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    That's a flat out LIE. What we're talking about isn't "chunks of meat", into "steaks, roasts and other cuts". It's "mechanically separated parts". Diseased intestines from over medicated unhealthy cows, tumors, cysts, half an azzhole and maybe a few skin lesions thrown in for good measure. That's the beef, that you call beef, that ain't beef. It's SHEET. Literally. It's cow sheet, so technically, it could be call "beef"...if you consider sheet....beef.
     
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    Toilet water is a different subject. If you really want to know the truth, if you get your water from an aquifer, at one time or the other it probably WAS toilet water.

    In the case of FTB it starts with beef trimmings left over from producing cuts of meat. In the past, those trimmings were wasted. Today, there is a mechanical method for separating the meat from the fat and sinew. It is no more 'processed' than a sirloin cut being put through a shredder to create ground sirloin.
     
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    I notice you constantly blather but can't back up one single thing you say.
     
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    Our food tastes better than european food, we are advanced and technological, so we can make tasty food from fancy things like high fructose corn syrup.

    europeans have to rely on natural sweetners like cane sugar or whatever, its not as tasty, or refined, for american evolved taste buds.
     
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    I've personally seen what I have posted. That's backup enough for me. Enjoy your cow tumors.
     
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    No, of course they aren't. However, currently the labelling regulations in the US (unlike in Europe) are riddled with loopholes such that they aren't telling you accurately what is in the food so that you can make an infomed choice about whether to eat it or not. Of course, you can decide (if you can afford it) to only choose, for example, fresh cuts of meat from a known butcher, but that isn't the point - food shoul be accurately and honestly labelled so that consumers can decide whether to buy it based on the actual ingredients. Currently it isn't - it can be 'hiding' from consumers within the product they have bought without their knowledge - that isn't giving consumers freedom of choice.

    They aren't 'making' you eat those particular products, but they aren't letting you know which food to avoid if you don't want to eat it!
     
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    Nah, they just hate the fact that black folks can be more clever than them.
     
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    Except that Obama isn't any smarter than most of the people at this web site and not nearly as clever.
     
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    Sorry I didnt see you are the moderator before disagreeing... Actually I did but I am too lazy to edit my post beyond this simple disclaimer.

    WRONG! By subsidizing HFCS and driving up the price of natural sugar, allowing HFCS and FTB to undercut the market. They are FORCING businesses to cheat, in order to compete. They are driving down the US food industry quality, and ergo as it proliferates the market and drives other costs up, they are FORCING you to eat it.

    Your business CANNOT stay upward for long due to market forces, and you collapse into a niche market, or you intentionally deplete your revenue by selling at market value of equally labeled goods, following ethical practices solely at your own expense. It is a FORCE as much as gravity, and it is as voluntary AS gravity.

    YES. You eat what is in front of you or you die. When you have 10 things to choose from and they are all progressively bad, it is not a choice, but the illusion of choice. Because you could jump through hoops, fly to France, or invent a time machine, does not REALLY mean you have choice.

    The United States Government has built the society, whether by action or inaction, they have built the society, and now they are living in it.. Except the government members live in a bubble disproportionate to the reality of their people, and the corporate fat cats spew lies to the US Government such that "cigarettes were never proven unsafe", "cigarettes don't cause cancer", "the food is never proven unsafe". All while the people SCREAM under their treatment. They grow sickly and diseased. They get fat and bloated. Their children have birth problems.

    YES THE US GOVERNMENT IS MAKING YOU EAT FOODS LADEN WITH HFCS, BECAUSE OF POLICIES THEY MADE.

    They could just as easily make you eat wonderful nutritious foods. AND THE RICH WOULD STILL BE RICH. It is NOT a problem of can, or cannot. It IS a problem of will, and will not.

    When one business man is allowed to artificially flavor his (*)(*)(*)(*) and call it meat, it drags the entire market down to his same level, and evil gremlin corporations invent new ways of social depravity. If instead he is told by the US Government to live up to standards, WE INVENT WAYS TO ACHIEVE COST CAPACITY ON THE QUALITY FOOD. When our market is undercut, WE CANNOT AFFORD COST CAPACITY and so the quality food dries up. THAT IS WHY QUALITY FOOD COSTS MONEY IN THE USA whereas quality food is ABUNDANT ABUNDANT! in places of standards. During these changes the rich STILL FIND WAYS to be rich, the poor STILL FIND WAYS TO BE POOR, and the market stabilizes on the necessity to eat WHATEVER IS PLACED IN FRONT OF YOU.

    The United States has a problem with **WILL**, and a ruling class which is change adverse who value their own pockets over the lives and vibrancy of the populations they rule over, and WE CLEARLY SEE THE EFFECT.
     
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    Forty years ago I had some young bass fish in a pool formed from a little dam in a stream, and fed them real beef, crickets, earthworms, etc., but had limited success getting them to eat hamburger. They would reject poor quality hamburger outright, but would spit out reasonably OK samples within a minute after eating them.

    Occasionally I feed my few cats raw hamburger or whole beef despite risk of parasites because they don't do well on a diet entirely made up of cooked products or processed pet foods and start rejecting/wasting food. Even when bypassing the hidden mass of stale greyish-brown beef in a package of hamburger, I am having a really hard time finding any grade of ground beef consistently acceptable to them and will probably end up grinding whole beef or going back to cutting small pieces of whole beef. I am tired of being charged high prices for blatantly compromised goods.

    The food industry will use every trick they can get away with to pass off garbage as food.
     
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    Toilet Water CEASES to become toilet water when it is filtered through mountainous pressure and rock.

    Water BECOMES Toilet Water when you put AMMONIA in it.

    DON'T PUT AMMONIA IN OUR FOOD WITHOUT TELLING US, AND TELL US THE SOURCE AND METHOD OF THE COMMODITY. That is all we ask!

     
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    Bread that isn't bread. Cheese that isn't cheese. Laboratory produced sweetener. Animals that are fed industrial byproducts, malnourished, pumped with drugs and hormones. Vegetables that are genetically engineered for high yield low weild. Food that isn't food. Financial industry of fraud. Medical scam PONZI scheme. Regulation against the poor. Tax against the poor. A government that is not a government! A vast system of corruption and fraud!

    Every bit adds up to the vile US condition!

     
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    Actually, the natural/organic food section is often very large. And, of course, you have places like WholeFoods and Trader Joe's that sell nothing else!
     
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    Wendy's, Five Guys, and Hardees all use higher grade meat that is never frozen.

    McD's, Five Guys, and Wendy's cook on a flat-top grill...other than seasoning the grill (required on any flat grill to prevent rust), no oil is used. BK, Hardees, and I think In-N-Out all flame-broil.
     
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