'Foreign actors' accessed Hillary Clinton emails, documents show

If Trump is a traitor then I'm one. You throw that word around as if it has meaning when it's merely for your benefit. What exactly are his traitorous behaviors or are you just spitting out leftist propaganda?

If you think there's something wrong with me then you're right. I'm sick of listening to the mindless drone, accusations, and words like traitor, Nazi, and fascist from those like you and the left wing media. While I grant you he's bellicose and has narcissistic tendencies as well as being hard to take at times, perhaps you'd focus more on what the guy has done rather than focus on his personality in your view. Eat the fruit and piss on the tree but not too much of the latter.

GDP is almost 5%. It didn't get to 2 under Obama not to rail on him but to contrast what was before and now after. If it gets and stays at 6% then if Congress will act right and stop fighting each other we can beat the 21T$ deficit. Jobless rates are at historic lows for minorities and at a low for the last 44 years. The market has gone out the roof. Consumer confidence is up. People have more money in their pocket since the 90s. And don't say it's Obama coming to fruition. I really like the guy but he was a failure as a President. It took longer to get out of the 08 depression since the Great Depression. Roosevelt and his high taxes ruined Harding's roaring twenties although TBF most of the world went into a depression. However, it took a war to get us out of ours much later than the rest of the world. History shows tax cuts and low regulatory overhead works; not just Reagan but Harding, Clinton, and Kennedy as well. There's a reason people think the country has turned around.

I'm almost 70 so I've seen them come and go including Congresses. What we have is a disintegration of our culture as well as an absolute void between two bickering and irresponsible parties most of whom should go home. They've become feudal lords and we are the serfs. The Road to Serfdom was prophetic.

Wake up and help right the country before it goes under. If you think that is a ridiculous thought then study the history of republics in this world. Their fall began with the disintegration of their culture and the pomposity of their rulers who grew increasingly distant and removed from the populace.

 

I wouldn't be so quick, but if you say so.

 

Duplicate thread........cuz' it's all you got.

 

After all I said that's the best you can do?!!

 

I don't care about your cut and paste. I've been reading that crap all night from every other would be spammer cutting and pasting the same talking points .

 

The traitorous behaviors are conspiring with the Russians to cheat his victory in the 2016 election. You don't seem to have any problem with that because our GDP is up, but I realize that is due far less to any President than it is to developments on the world economic scene and to Obama's policies far more than any Republican's, but particularly Trump.

I've been around about as long as you and I've seen this happen over and over. We Democrats create a prosperous economy and then the Republicans come along and create a kleptocracy to steal it. They rob us blind and then hand us back the gutted shell and go away long enough so we can fix it. Then they come back and use their "morality" and/or our internal conflicts to create wedge issues so they can take over and begin the cycle anew. It never changes and it hasn't now, though Trump and our present Republicans have been a good deal more blatant about it than most

Republic's fail when they forget they are republics and start to be more concerned with thing's like their "culture" rather than the overall benefit of all their citizens, not just the rich and the "master race". Nations fail when they think their sovereignty means they can be Hermit Kingdoms. We are in the modern world and in modernity no man, and no nation, can be an island for very long, not and remain prosperous.

 

Trump you say?

Wasn't John Podesta Hillary's campaign manager?

 

You do realise, don't you, that the "foreign actors" access to one H Clinton email had absolutely nothing to do with her private server, right? That email was obtained from someone else.

 

Proof please.

 

"It is more accurate to say we know foreign actors obtained access to some of her emails (including at least one Secret one) via compromises of the private email accounts of some of her staffers." from page 190 of the report.

Then the report goes on to discuss the possibility that foreign adversaries gained access to her private server. They say it is possible, but that "possibility" is based on speculation and their ultimate conclusion is that it is unlikely to have happened.

"Comey also included in his statement a comment that although the FBI did not find direct evidence that former Secretary Clinton’s private email account was hacked, the FBI assessed that it was “possible” that hostile actors gained access to former Secretary Clinton’s personal email account based on various factors. He added that the FBI assessed it would be unlikely to see such direct evidence given the nature of the system and the actors potentially involved in hostile intrusions, and that former Secretary Clinton had used her personal email in the territory of foreign adversaries. The statement thus insinuated that hostile foreign actors may have in fact gained access to former Secretary Clinton’s private email account, based almost entirely on speculation and without any evidence from the Midyear investigation to support his claim. As described in Chapter Five, the FBI Midyear Forensics Agent told the OIG that, although he did not believe there was “any way of determining...100%” whether Clinton’s servers had been compromised, he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.” The LHM summarizing the Midyear investigation similarly stated, “FBI investigation and forensic analysis did not find evidence confirming that Clinton’s email server systems were compromised by cyber means.”" from page 248 of the report

 

Everything you've said to me was insulting. I didn't cut and paste any of that. It comes from years of education and experience. You're a hateful corpuscle, aren't you?

 

Where's the link? I do know why you didn't provide i.

 

Actually I'm a total Dick and a complete Bastard. I personally won't be happy until Russia is economically devastated for what they've done. Until they have to gnaw on the bones of their dead. Until Putin dies the same way as Kadaffi and head is on a pike.

But that has nothing to do with your failure to engage with reality.

 

You have no proof of Russian collusion. You go from thread to thread repeating it as if it were fact when most of your Dems say there isn't any proof.....yet. Got news for you, if there was collusion we'd hear it from everyone, not some progressive and? a socialistic fanatic like you. Jesus, talking to you people gives me a frackin' headache. You spin facts and nonfacts to suit your agenda like we can't tell what you're doing. I know you think we're all stupid, ignorant, and uneducated deplorables but that's your arrogance and brainwashing talking. Some of us ignorant and deplorable POS are highly educated. But then you wouldn't believe that any more than the facts that refute much of your retorts.

Well, to answer your response about republics, does your view fit the fall of the Roman Empire or does my description fit better? I really don't care to get into a debate with anyone about the fall of the Republic of the US just know that republics don't normally last as long as we have. Rome was not always a republic either. That's probably one reason for its longevity.

 

Exactly what part of reality am I not addressing? Please, don't tell me they have evidence of collusion because they don't and I suspect never will. What they have done is get themselves in a boatload of trouble.

BTW, I would like to see Putin deposed but don't count on it.

 

Just wait for the Mueller report.

 

Muellar is part of the problem at the top of the FBI. Not sure he even gets to a report. But he's going to stretch it out if he can get past the midterms in hopes the progressives take over the house. Unless he goes bye bye before then. There's more IG reports coming. Of course one person today refused to comment on the report accusing me of making up the fact HRC's server got hacked by foreign agents.

By the way it appears five of Muellar's team have been referred for investigation by the IG. That's on top of those already dismissed. Nothing but Dems on the panel and some with shady backgrounds and you expect me to buy into any report by him.

 

You can't find a link to the IG report yourself? OK - here it is.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

 

By all means, quote the section of the report that concludes that HRC's server got hacked by foreign agents.

I'll even give you the link to the report.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

All you have to do is lift the quote from the report that concludes that her server got hacked by foreign agents, and give us the page number from the report.

 

If you're talking to me look it up yourself. It's confirmation of old news anyway.

 

It's 568 pages, what pages are you referring to?

 

You really are pathethic.

Trying to make something out of this claim, in the face of open and routine communication between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence repesents a level of hypocracy that is amazing even for a far right wing Trumpsters;

You claim that the Clinton campaign paid Russians millions is false. You made it up. There isn't a shred of evidence ot support this idiotic charge.

The European missile defense shield remains in place, as it has since the 1950's. This is another one of your false claims. Obama simply reversed Bush's plans to place new missile in Poland, missles taht George W Bush insisted were there to defend Europe against ........Iran.

 

Do you think that the IG report confirms that foreign agents hacked her server?

Because it doesn't. Their conclusion is that her server was NOT hacked.

 

FFS my post 86 - which you quoted in your post 88 - lifted quotes directly from the report and identified the pages that those quotes came from.

Only one of HRC's emails marked "Top Secret" was confirmed to have ended up in the hands of foreign actors, and that email was obtained from one of her staffers - not from the server.

The report confirms that there is no evidence that her server was ever hacked.

 

Thanks, I'll check it out.