Former Bush aide issues startling warning to GOP: 'It's time to panic'

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    That's what I find the most amusing about otherwise intelligent people... the ability to form an entire argument around a few words Trump uttered at some time in his life.

    He's a brilliant businessman. If he comes up with a brilliant plan to cover everyone with health insurance without taxpayer money, I'd be all for it. Wouldn't you?
     
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    Yes, you'll be thrilled when he comes up with single payer healthcare insurance, which is what he said as recently as last year.
     
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    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Who did you thank when your 401K regained its pre-2008 value and started making money for you every year?
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Not even that... regurgitating what they've been fed.
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    Like I said, if he can come up with a way to pay for it without tax money, Im all for trying anything. Maybe he'll convert all abortion clinics into Minute Clinics. Then everybody would have ready access to affordable hc. Especially poor women.
     
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    Universal healthcare uses taxpayer money.
     
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    Free healthcare for poor women that does not cost anyone else?

    I dont think so
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    They get free abortions, why not force Planned Parenthood to fundraise enough to provide free healthcare instead. I'd even chip in a few bucks. ;)

    Srsly, its too early to debate Trumps healthcare plan because it doesnt exist. My fantasy isn't anymore far out than screeching SINGLE PAYER, SINGLE PAYER, SINGLE PAYER!
     
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    Don't blame me for your lack of understanding of how markets work.. I do not say that there was not a slight Trump Bump but, the reaction of the markets to this lasted only a few days ... not 9 months.
     
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    Correct

    Both Red and Blue political elite are Establishment wonks.... and so is Trump.

    Prior to commenting further ... the US is now, for all intensive purposes, and Oligarchy. The Oligarchs are part of the Establishment and the other components (Political Elite, Bureaucracy, Military Industrial Complex) serve the interests of the Oligarchs - international financiers who own the Defense Industry, Banks, Media, Energy, Food, Industry, and anything else of value that is not nailed down.

    What do you think the agenda of the Establishment is ?
     
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    Takes two trains for a train wreck.
     
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    Just because Obama was an Establishment puppet does not change the fact that Trump is also an establishment puppet.

    How about we get rid of these clowns ? This is unlikely to happen because the Establishment owns he MSM and is tightening it's grip but, living in denial is not helping.
     
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    Nobody with any cogent sense pays any attention what this Rhino establishment mouthpiece, Gerson, has to say.
     
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    Oh, we should nuke them. And then Israel can nuke the US because Obama tried to interfere and send Netanyahu home. Then France can nuke us for interfering in their election. Then using DC logic, we can nuke NK because russia interfered in our election and russia has relations with NK.

    So, if each nation nuked the other nation for promoting one ruler over another, we could end this interfering. Problem solved. And then Putin would not own the US. But he already got some of our uranium from the clintons for a nice fee, which is all he wanted. I would imagine he is quite sad that hillary lost. For he already knew how easily she was to bribe. Given that the russians spent only a couple hundred thousand to elect trump, it now makes sense why such a paltry sum was spent. All Putin had to do was to convince some americans, both parties and MSM that he was pulling for Trump, and if it had worked he would have gotten hillary into office, as he understood she could be paid off. And given the dems and MSM, he would not have to spend much at all. Putin understands how far gone the dems are mentally, and so there was no need to spend much at all in social media to put them into hysterics. Yet he failed at the reverse psychology and trump won. Congress would not have tied hillary's hands in regards to russia, as they did with trump. So Putin would be wheeling and dealing with hillary. Even as her voters who now hate putin and russia would be in love with them.
     
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    Ask Democrats to define establishment and they say, why it is republicans. Yet it was the small voter that elected Trump, not establishment money.

    Hillary on the other hand located a Democratic party gold mine. It is known as the DNC.

    Some people craved a third party winner. Well, that is precisely what they got.
     
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    You are wallowing around in partisan blindness. The Establishment is not just Red and Blue political elite. The Establishment consists of "big money" / international financiers as well as the "deep state" (basically the military industrial complex, intelligence agencies, other bureaucracy and so on - mostly bought and paid for of course).

    Trump is a useful clown for the moment as he keeps the peoples attention away from the fact that they are being royally sodomized. Most of Trumps policies are Establishment favorites.

    Putting nose up Saudi backside - international financiers who are part of the Establishment
    Tax Breaks for the international financiers (IF) which will put the middle class further into indentured servitude by making them pay the tax that the elite is not paying.
    Waste more money on Military stuff that has no purpose ... IF owns the military industrial complex so good, and they own the banks so more borrowed money for which we are currently paying 450 Billion a year in interest .. more happiness there.

    Increase police powers towards a quazi totalitarian police state ... that will keep the middle class from rising up.
    Further control of the media .... "Check" Going after Freedom of Speech and Freedom of expression "Check"

    You realize it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on the US public in 2013 did you not ? NO ? you didnt

    Well Welcome to Big Brother.

    Trump is not draining the swamp. Trump is the swamp whether he knows it or not. He has always been an elitist and believer and eugenics ideology (not to be confused with Adolf) so he was pretty much establishment right from the get go.

    And that's the facts Jack.
     

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