Former Christian here, ask me anything

Atheists love magic. It is the basis that they justify their unbelief. Besides atheists use many more fallacies.

 

When atheists stop taking them out of context.

 

I realize you will offer nothing of use to this discussion, but magic? What magic do atheists believe in?

Be explicit.

 

Atheists use science as a crutch. They really like evolution as do I. The difference is they think everything happened and evolved by magic. That is hilarious!

 

How did God stop the Sun in the sky for an entire day, as related in the Book of Joshua?


Anti-matter powered mega-graviton generators placed at the Lagrange points usinig stabilizing fields?

or "something else"?

 

why would a person who finally escapd from "god" then want to take on several more? weird.

 

If you are an atheist then the answer: magic is good enough for you. Hahaha!

 

That comment brought up an amazing memory of a clip from a classic film.

Check out timestamp 0:45 to 1:05

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You're a believer....what answer is good enough for you?

 

It does resolve a lot of issues.

As we discuss when we mention the war-like, bloodthirsty, even genocidal God of the Old Testament...and compare him to the supposed "loving and merciful" God of the New Testament.....why not literally two gods. Why not four? Why not a baker's dozen?

Hades....who is the Judge and Tempter of Man. Zeus, the Powerful Rager and Dispenser of Boons (who also impregnates young virgins to create demi-god "sons"). Mars....the God of War who would slaughter rival tribes with glee (even the children) for his worshippers. Hera, the goddess of hearth and home and family....Hail Hera, Full of Grace, Zeus is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb........

Gabriel could be Hermes. And Jesus Hercules or Perseus?

 

Resolves even more if a person just gets over it.

When I was a child I had a stable of under-the-bed and in-the-closet monsters, with different names.

To about the same effect as some poly-gods.

 

But you are the one begging for an answer. If you believe that everything just appeared on earth by magic then magic should suffice as an answer in this case. As far as I am concerned I realize the Bible was not written as a science book with specific details on everything. That wasn't the purpose of it and it is unrealistic to expect such. The long day in the book of Joshua could be a result of poetic language. The long day could have been a miracle. But that isn't the point of it. I realize how atheists try and cherry pick parts of the Bible to make themselves feel better about being wrong.

 

If they are wrong, show us how. You have stated they are but have provided no reason to think you can defend the position.

 

Hahaha! Atheists are wrong. I have shown that thread after thread.

 

Evolved my magic? I guess you are physically incapable of reading the words that are presented to you?

 

But not today.

 

And it looks like you can't properly explain yourself.....as usual. I win again.

 

Why do you bother answering anything bible related?
You are an admitted fraud christian.

 

really? this has not been my experience at ALL. quite the opposite, in fact. over roughly half a century I've had many opportunities to make polite and even-tempered enquiries into some of the more .... ahem .... preposterous claims of the bible, and of christians generally. I can't recall any but one actually welcoming it. some went so far as to get upset/angry/rude/cry/tell me to take a hike. one the other hand, if I ask "why does god allow wars?" or "does god really love me?" then sure, it's red carpet all the way.

the single individual who seemed to relish the genuinely probing questions (i.e. the ones any sane person would ask before signing up - just as you would check the small print before signing up for anything involving your hard earned dollars), was a hardcore evangelist who bailed a group of us up one evening. he took on 4 or 5 ratty atheists, and was prepared to keep going long after we'd given up in favour of pizza. god love him, he was kinda crazy but a very cool dude

 

My only problem with Buddhism (other than Woo...which isn't a punishable defense) is that it, as well as many eastern philosophies, exercise in paradoxical logic. I'm fine with "the self" being the emptiness that perception reports back to. But the acceptance of paradoxical logic is unacceptable.

To say that A is the same as Not A is uninformative, and entirely acceptable in Buddhism. If we say that True is the same as Not True then we have no foundation for knowledge. Maybe you have "great wisdom" but you can't tell me nothing about anything that I'll need to know in the next 10 minutes. These are logical paradoxes that are just accepted rather than challenged like they were in Ancient Greek Philosophy. A better, and more useful, argument is to resolve the tautology of paradoxical logic.

 

Why is poo brown?

 

Hahaha! I am not an "admitted" fraud or christian. What gives you the right to answer bible related questions since you think there are requirements to do so?

 

That is not the truth. I hope and pray many more realize someday, that it is not as you say.

 

No buts... I've seen people use EVERY manner of harsh and impolite device here in this forum. Giant generalizations are entirely common in this environment. It's not the best tool to use, yet it is commonly employed at PF.

 

How can a person who has no choice escape God? He didn't choose to not believe in God. Nor did he choose to take on several more. Right?

 

Maybe he escaped his flawed perception of God, and went in a different direction.
The world is full of "men of God" who pretend to know God, but don't. So, why would you follow a lost man?
To pursue God, start with a blank slate, because there is no true man of God out there to start you on your way.
Any thoughts or pre-conceived notions are poison.

If you were an astronomy student and at the top of your class, but you believe that the moon is made of green cheese, would Harvard give you a doctorate in astronomy if you believed that, regardless of how brilliant you are at the top of your class. No.
So why expect to find God and have him empower or validate you if you if you believe wrongly. If he did that, it would be like endorsing your wrong perceptions, that would be foolish.