Former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove says Donald Trump borrowed money from Russia during 2008 financial

It's not my OP, and nobody claim dealing with that ban makes one a traitor. Again, if all you have is strawmen then stop wasting my time.

 

Tell that "destruction" wish to the FBI and NY state.

 

Does your mortgage lender control you? Why no. Your obligation is simply to make the payments.
Does the person who you make car payments to, control you? Why no. You just simply have to make the payments.

The Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign, confidence that they would turn over the reins of power to Hillary. Then the unthinkable happened, Trump won. Ever since then, the Obama Administration, first lied and claimed that they had not spied on Trump, as that collapsed, they spun out their next story, that they were compelled to spy on Trump due to the Russian thing they manufactured.

But if there is anything we have learned about Hillary and Obama, is that they LIE about EVERYTHING. The complete bullshit about Benghazi was when it became undeniable that they are not only bungling idiots, but completely untruthful.

 

Its the basis of the thread.. I am incapable of wasting your time as no one can force you to read when people reply..

 

You keep mention those in about 5 threads a day but nothing is coming up from it.. Nothing but "alleges" and "sources".. The NY State AG is a complete partisan hack so feel free to bring him up if you think it gains you anything.

 

I don't see anything about traitors in the OP. The issues is the lies about Russian ties and the trickle of information that has came out. Trump said he has no Russian ties, if he's lying there's reason to ask why.

 

Yep bullshit!!! There is no Mr Trump history of bankruptcy first of all. There is is the Trump Organization which has some 500 subsidary and about 5 bankruptcies. That is actually a fantastic track record. The Trump Organization has no more trouble getting loans than any other large real-estate company.

Thie guy just took stuff he read in the liberal press and invented a story around it.

Thr story also makes no sense since Trump Entertainment Resorts filed in 2009. If he had gotten this "huge" loan why the bankruptcy?

 

Borrowing money from a German bank that has dealings with Russia ( along with most countries in the world) is hardly "Russian ties". There is no "trickle" of information its yet again baseless allegations hell i even quoted the ****ing article.

 

Oh please. There is nothing sadder to witness that someone defending the indefensible. It's going to get more and more difficult to spin the Trump/Russian connection. Stop embarrassing yourself.

USA bad/Russia good...the new right wing mantra.

 

A German bank under DOJ investigation for its dealings with Russia.

 

From the story:

It is not illegal to borrow money from Russian entities but Mr Dearlove, who left government in 2004, did not provide any evidence to support his claim in the interview.

“Trump’s relationship with Russia goes back many, many years. I’m sure the FBI was monitoring it,” he said.

It is unknown if Mr Trump is still paying off the alleged 2008 debts to Russian lenders or which part of the vast Trump organisation took out the loans.

The guy left the government before anything happened in 2008. The FBI, he's "sure" monitored it, and he doesn't know if Trump still owes anyone money. The is a story even CNN wouldn't run with.

 

Partisanship is 100% bull ****. Hillary was a victim of her own piss poor leadership and even worse campaign style. But at least she's got plenty of time to wipe her servers with a rag.

 

While true, she also had to deal with BS claims going back to her time as First Lady of Arkansas

 

could you point to the corruption for me?

 

That's total Horse ****. In 2008, Russia was a member of G8 and banking interactions within the G-8 economies was common and encouraged.

Russia formally joined the group in 1998, after steps toward democratization and years of gradual engagement with what was then the G7. With the Cold War over, several world leaders—particularly U.S. president Bill Clinton—encouraged Russia's inclusion. In FACT, Russia held the G8 presidency in 2006 and 2014! I love the way some fresh-faced clowns, who woke up yesterday, believe everyone's knowledge of history, started with their own awareness.

In 2013, Russia was considered to be in such good standing, that Obama The Hapless, turned over the removal of Syria's chemical weapons to the Nation State of Russia. But, a private business man isn't even supposed to take a business loan from a Russian Bank in 2008? Even you must have an inkling that your position is a bit retarded.

Now in 2014 on the heels of its invasion of neighboring Ukraine's Crimea region, The seven other members of the G8, joined by the presidents of the European Council and European Commission, released a joint statement as the G7 condemning "the Russian Federation's clear violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine." Russia's actions "contravene the principles and values on which the G7 and the G8 operate." That was 6 years after what you are referring to, do you think Trump's owns a fuggin' Crystal ball? Further, Trump;s actions, that you describe were 5 years previous to The Hapless Obama, trusting Russian WITH SYRIA'S CHEMICAL WEAPONS! But, that you are fine with? Are you completely out of your mind?

 

And Trump had to deal with the usual line of democrat whores accusing him of every ism in the book. She was a **** leader and a worse candidate. Think about this, she couldn't even beat "the worst candidate in American history". So what's that make her?

 

If you're looking for someone to say Hillary was a great candidate then you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm just saying the stink of a president under FBI investigation won't just go away if he doesn't get charged.

 

You want to talk about a BS claim try this on for size. You run a Huge real-estate conglomerate with over 500 subsideries. That conglomerate has had 6 bankruptcies in its history which is a fantastic record. Somehow that gets spun as you have personally filed for bankruptcy 6 times and your credit os so bad you cant get a loan.

Only abject morons are dumb enough to buy that level of spin.

 

And? Do you have any idea how many clients they have? Including the Clinton Foundation that information you want to run from? Does that mean anything? Of course not as again its a huge bank.

 

Nah, and one dot doesn't reveal the picture until you connect them all.

 

I think you underestimate CNN. As the Obama admin begins to take center stage in the "Russian" investigation, CNN & MSM will be furiously spewing contrived conspiracies. Anything in order to avoid reporting the real developing story ... domestic surveillance.

 

There are no dots to connect.

 

How on earth can you claim that already? I admit nothing has been proven yet, but it's still ongoing. You're already certain they will find nothing why?

 

Because pro-Russian/Putin radical right wing media tells them to.

 

Breitbart says 1+1=3. Gotta be true.

PS--There are a lot of dots to connect.

Only the terminally blinded fail to see them.