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Four killed in mass shooting in northern Australia

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you just thought wrong, or is that not possible. :)

    Once again, another shooting and it is immediately politicized.

    Why don't we wait for the investigation.
     
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  2. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    No. I stated a fact.
    The guns are there, and people can get them - and yet, they have fewer shootings.
    Why? Dunno, but it cannot be because the gun control laws prevent access to guns.
     
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  3. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Just taking the claims of the anti-gun left at face value. :dunno:
     
    TOG 6, Jun 4, 2019
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  4. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Again, you are drawing unsupported conclusions. Australia has longer waiting periods to get this legal guns. You have no proof that this hasn't prevented a hot head from conducting a mass shooting. They have more extensive background checks. You have no proof that this doesn't lower the percentage of crazy people with immediate access to guns. You are simply guessing.

    And again, it is cowardly to edit other poster's replies.
     
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  5. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    That's right. You don't know.
     
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  6. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    No. I am not.
    Regardless of how strict their gun laws may be, people still have access to guns that kills a lot of people.
    And yet, they don't.
    The reason they do not -cannot- their access to guns, because they have access to guns.
     
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  7. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Should I -not- take the claims of the anti-gun left at face value?
    Wait -- would they lie about the effect of Australia's gun laws and their effect on mass shootings in Oz?
     
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  8. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Again, it is cowardly to edit other people's posts. Please stop.

    You simply have no way of knowing if people who wanted to conduct mass shootings were unable to get guns at the time they wanted
    to conduct the mass shooting. Longer waiting periods and background checks may have prevented that. There is simply no way you can prove otherwise.
     
    Daniel Light, Jun 4, 2019
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    Members here that constantly inject themselves into our laws and tell us how to run our country and noticeably absent from this discussion. I hope they stay that way.
     
    Jestsayin, Jun 4, 2019
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    You seem to have no problem making unsupported conclusions.
     
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  11. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    And you refuse to understand that Aussie gun laws do not deny access to guns that can be used to kill a large number of people in a short period of time, thus negating the claim to that effect suggested by the anti-gun left.

    And I have to laugh at your "at the time they wanted" qualifier -- as anyone who does not already have a gun and is legally able to own a gun can get one, anyone who is committed to the idea of a mass shooting will wait until he has the gun.

    Might the gun laws stop someone who has a sudden impulse to commit a mass shooting? Possibly -- but this assumes he cannot otherwise get a gun, like the guy in the story noted in the OP, and isn't willing to wait. Does this account for the vast difference in the number of shootings in Oz and the US? Surely even you won't suggest such a thing.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Avoiding the point, eh? No surprise.
     
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    Being the good knee-jerk reactionaries they are, they're working on a universal ban on shotguns in Oz.
     
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    Lol.
     
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  15. mdrobster

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    No you are projecting for Australia.
     
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  16. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Wait...
    Are the claims if the anti-gun left re: Aussie gun laws and their crime v ours false?
     
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  17. 61falcon

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    The shooting of 4 people in Australia is a very rare occurrence that happens usually several times per day here in the good old gun worshipping USA!!
     
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    My condolences to the families of the deceased.
     
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    If the guns are there, yet Australia has fewer shootings than the US, then the reason seems to be that they're not even remotely as insane as most 'mericans.
     
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  20. truth and justice

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    If Trump had a son.......
    [​IMG]
     
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    Are you questioning the legitimacy of births of Dirty Donalds 3 sons???
     
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  22. Gatewood

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    You mean like in Dem Party occupied Chicago? But then again that's usually Black on Black murders and from what anyone can tell from way back when Barack Obama was president, our leftists just don't consider that to be a problem. As for Australia, we have a handful of Australians who ALWAYS insist upon HOWLING that restricting gun ownership in the United State would fix all problems. It didn't seem to fix Australia's problems. Gasp! Someone should start an O.P to that effect . . . oh wait . . . somebody did; and immediately a bunch of leftists began thread derailing . . . as . . . per . . . usual.
     
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  23. Hoosier8

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    Where is @Bowerbird on this to spin it?
     
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  24. TOG 6

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    :lol:
     
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    Desperately waiting for the release of the latest talking points.
     
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