Fox: It's Extraordinary That Charleston Church Shooting Is Being Called a Hate Crime

Given what I previously wrote, your retort is just a childish. I'm just going to ignore your obvious crank on this subject or with me.

 

Says there were 74 total, but the breakdown doesn't add up to that. Whatever the cause, it surely is NOT what the preacher on Fox was alluding to.

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You don't arm everyone to the teeth in the hopes that a mass shootout won't occur and innocent people will get caught in the cross fire.

 

Right, you make sure they stay targets. Got it.

 

This thread isn't about YOU, Tex. It's about the REALITY that the President has had to address the nation 14 times because nut cases had relatively easy access to weapons they should NOT have had, and caused multiple deaths.

And despite your touting the mantras, the reality (and victims) are not buying it. Case in point: http://www.vpc.org/fadeathchart14.htm Note NY ranks below TX.

 

Oh you mean like the 2 parties that got shot up over the weekend in Philly and Detroit?

 

who told you that? Prove it! Post the historical record showing so, or spare me the supposition and conjecture.

 

Has he addressed this yet? How come he hasn't been out there 1,050 times for these?

Chicago shootings pass 1,000 mark

 

sorry to burst your bubble, but true legal scholars laugh at LaPierre's juxtapositons, supposition and conjecture. Here, a better examination is done...and it shows how INDIVIDUAL cases still do not give credence to the NRA gibberish.

http://www.loc.gov/law/help/second-amendment.php

Militias are regulated by the STATE, don't cha know.

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Translation: I took JWBlack point for point, and his mantras and opinions did not bear up, so he blows smoke as a futile retort.

 

Again, as I explained to Joseph, not all the hate crimes committed are done by folk on drugs. Also, the racists attacks (past & present) on that church in the past were NOT done by drug addled felons.

This BS smoke screen by apologist for racism and bigotry would be laughable if the situation wasn't so dire. Bottom line: you can't treat racism (well actually, you can....the first step is to get people to acknowledge it in all it's forms...but that is another debate for another time), but you can prosecute crimes committed in that vein.

 

I and others did, as the chronology of the posts shows. YOU just ignore what you don't like. As in the previous post, I corrected you on the statement regarding the classification of weapons that was in the Feinstein proposal. YOU didn't have the decency to just concede your error even then. So why should I repeat myself because of your obvious stubbornness?

 

Oh give me a break with this lame smoke screen......juxtaposing things does NOT change what was stated in the final draft. Here's how true legal scholars handled this over the years https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendment

Militias are regulated by the STATES, don't cha know.

 

Holder doesn't think blacks can be racists so he won't prosecute them for it.

 

Sorry, but as I pointed out in my opening posts, there has NOT been similar types of violence against "christians" in the USA like there has been against black folk (i.e., businesses, individuals, organizations, churches) in recent history...so the preacher was full of it, Fox was full of it. The "speculation" was based on historic FACT in that region, against that particular church.

 

There are no state regulated militias so your point is moot.

 

Nope, private citizens bought cannon and could do so. And how is a private business any different from a private citizen? The bottom line is you're wrong and you're trying to weasel out of admitting it like the little liberal you are. BTW how many NRA members have been involved in this? Registered Republicans? It's not even the Klan. It's liberals doing the vast majority of the killings.

 

No kidding? That's what is being done....YOU just don't like the FACT that this joker was pursued under the suspicion of a hate crime GIVEN THE FACTS AND AREA HISTORY; that the suspicion was verified.

 

I always have to wonder about this claimed persecution of Christians in America. I don't know where on Earth they get that from! Looks like it's something a few paranoid loudmouths make up and others repeat, because it's hard to imagine the vast majority of the US's religious population being in any way oppressed. Especially when they still dominate all branches of the government!

 

Can YOU logically and factually prove it's not? They I.F. Stone your right wing pundits to death.

 

I do have a grip. what's your point, that you're against better gun laws? Here, FYI: http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-by-gun-top-20-states-with-highest-rates/2/

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no, you don't "get it"....you just childishly have a gain saying to anything I post with little to know logic or facts on your part. That's why I putting you in the dumpster, as you're just cranking.

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Again, what's your point?

 

Liberal logic, don't allow citizens to defend themselves and all will be better because citizens are worse than criminals.

 

Legal definition means squat if people enforcing it interpret it as they see fit or media uses it to further an agenda. Go look up the "legal" definition of Affirmative Action and tell me with a straight face, that's how it works in the real world. Its adding an extra level of stupidity on top of a crime. You run someone over in a car, who *$(#@(@ cares if he was black or white. A lawyer can convince a jury you're the most racist guy on the planet, even when there's no proof.

 

I said in the beginning the motive was hate, that and the dude is a misdiagnosed over medicated lunatic. That doesn't make the crime any more serious than any other 1st degree murder. And if you read what I wrote above I already said that.

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For your education:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_organizations_in_the_United_States

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Prove it! Where's the documentation? NOT your opinion, I want documented FACTS.

 

The point is that you are woefully unaware that criminals don't obey laws.

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You better read that again. Those are NOT State sponsored or State regulated militias like you are trying to say.